Battery/charger Compatibility?

[CaliVaper]

I have a V2cigs Starter kit. I'm thinking about ordering a Smokeless Image battery because I want a sealed auto to use with my clearos. I'm just wondering if the V2 charger will work with a Smokeless Image battery? or for that matter a v2 battery with Smokeless Image charger (the usb part plugged into a V2 "brick", the part that is plugged into the wall)

Also, not exactly on topic but are there any other companies that offer regulated sealed automatic batteries? If yes, How do they compare?

 

[erich]

2 things to consider with screw-on chargers. The first is obvious: threads. Cigarette sized ecigs are typically either 510 or 808 threads. The 510 has the female end on the battery, where the 808 has the female end on the atomizer. The batteries inside of these are largely the same, and adapters from one to the other are available.

The other is output. Screw on USB chargers are usually in either 150mA to 200mA, or 400-500mA. The latter are for bigger batteries, such as an eGo or Riva and should *not* be used smaller, cigarette sized batteries. The former should be fine interchangeably. This is the output value printed on the charger dongle itself, not the wall plug. It should read something like "Output: DC4.2v 150mA"

 

[CaliVaper]

Ok, well first of all are the batteries themselves, the V2cigs batteries I have are 4.2V (unregulated) and the Smokeless Image ones are 3.6V (regulated). Both are KR808 threads.

for the V2cigs, the A/C adapter has output of 5V 1A, and the USB dongle has output of 4.2V 200mA
for Smokeless Image the A/C adapter has output of 5V 500mAh, and the USB dongle has output of 5V 150mA (also lists INput as 500mA)

So I'm not sure, because if i were to use the smokeless image 3.6V regulated battery on my V2 charging equipment, a couple of things don't match up. the smokeless image dongle has a higher voltage output but lower amps output than the V2 dongle and the battery itself is lower voltage.

And what if I wanted to use the Smokeless Image dongle with my V2 A/C adapter? Both the V2 and Smokeless Image A/C adapters output 5V but the V2 outputs twice as much amps, 1A compared to the Smokeless Image adapter which puts out 500mA. Also, as stated above, the Smokeless Image dongle lists the input as 500mA, so would plugging that into an A/C adapter with 1A output destroy it?

Ideally I would just buy the Smokeless Image battery and use the V2 charging equipment I already have, or else buy the Smokeless Image battery along with the matching USB dongle and use those both with the V A/C adapter.

 

[Rickajho]

As far as charging, it comes down to you NEVER want to put more current into the battery than it's designed to put out. Regarding that point you should be ok.

However you also need to consider that not all setups use the same polarity either.

In general it is always best - and safest - to use the charger the vendor or manufacturer recommends for use with your battery.

As far as "sealed auto" batteries - that's an inherent contradiction. If they were sealed as you want then they could not work as an auto battery. Auto sensors need an air flow in order to function. No air flow = no functional sensor.

 

[mynameisrob]

Rickajho is dead on. Those batteries are not actually sealed. I really don't get why SI calls them that because their not sealed at all actually. They should call them something like, Sealed Auto-"but not really sealed, just harder to kill with juice leaks than regular autos" batteries. That would be a much more fitting name.

The only difference with them is that their moved the airholes off to the side instead of being drop dead in the center.
So you could still def kill a "sealed" auto battery with a bad enough juice leak.

 

[swedishfish]

To me, chargers are cheap. Better to just buy another charger than deal with what a PITA it is when you have a dead battery with no or just one backup.

 

[erich]

All true. Better safe than sorry on the dongles.

As for the wall plug, all USB plugs are 5v, and the output current can be thought of as an availability measure on these. Thus, a USB wall plug can only be too little output, not too much.

 

[erich]

I'm also curious as to what they're suggesting is the benefit of a 'regulated' cig-a-like. A battery that size is not going to overdrive anything under load anyhow...

 

[CaliVaper]

The bennefit is that it will remain at 3.6V or very close to it until the last hit. where as something like my V2 batteries (4.2V, unregulated) start at 4.2V right off the charger but as the voltage output constantly drops as the battery power does, so by the time your down to the last few hits, your way lower than 4.2V.

At least thats the way I've seen several people explain it. Not an electrician and not sure if that is the correct terminology, but that is what many people refer to it as.