bear with me on this one

[hyperdeficit]

hey all,
this is just an idea I have that could be a good step to protecting e cigs.

As we all (probably all) know barack obama is a smoker who is struggling to quit. and in most of his speeches he talks about letters he recieves from citizens.

LETS CONVERT THIS MAN!!!

Lets all write and email him and try to get him to try an e cig.

RULES!!!!

Please no political discussion. My opinion is that no matter what you think about the president we should still be somewhat courteous as he is the president. Even if you hate him i think that he would be e cig user number one in the movement to protect e cigs.

i am really tired now (havent slept in 30 something hours) so i dont really want to find the email and all that right now. please dont call me an idiot because i DO know that it is probably availible on white house.gov . its just like i said im really tired and i have adhd and i wanted to type this before i forgot.

We could call this movement vapeforce 1!

Good idea? Bad idea?

I just figured that the media ate up the fact that he was a smoker so if he used e cigs that would DEFINETELY be headline news..

post your thoughts. or if somebody wants to help me and post the adresses then that would be great too. if not i will get them after work tommorrow

 

[eric]

This is one of the oldest ideas on the forum, hyperdeficit.

I'm sure the president already knows what e-cigs are, but has plenty of more important things to worry about than teaming up with the ECF agenda.

 

[hyperdeficit]

This is one of the oldest ideas on the forum, hyperdeficit.

I'm sure the president already knows what e-cigs are, but has plenty of more important things to worry about than teaming up with the ECF agenda.

well then i will take that worry away and buy him a 510 and the best juice ive tried and send it to him.

that way he doesnt have to worry about it because somebody else already worried about it and got him some facts. i think that would at LEAST pique his interest, maybe not to vaping but the concept of it .

even if he doesnt see the package hopefully somebody in the white house will.

what about several people each buying a cheap starter kit and sending it to the white house.

if enclosed is a note that reads. this is merely a gift for you please just try it once (or something like that , along with quick to the point scientifically backed up facts (such as all components of the juice being fda approved and what not).

some people in there would probably try it if there was hundreds of e cigs being sent to their door right?

if done wrongly i can see potential for disaster such as them calling us crazy or a news company spinning it off, but i believe as a forum we can come up with a way to do this right.

even if this is one of the oldest ideas why does it seem like people have given up on it? i see it as highly doable.

if you dont want to bother the whitehouse then replace president with "congressman" find all of them who smoke and send it to them.

 

[kinabaloo]

This is one of the oldest ideas on the forum, hyperdeficit.

I'm sure the president already knows what e-cigs are, but has plenty of more important things to worry about than teaming up with the ECF agenda.

Bet he could do a better job if he wasn't fighting the cravings ...

 

[hyperdeficit]

Bet he could do a better job if he wasn't fighting the cravings ...

haha nice one. i know i have enough trouble with my pathetic crap when i have nicfits. imagine the president when he has nicfits

 

[dragonpuff]

I like your idea Hyper.

I'm sure the president IS busy as heck, but has ANYONE here tried writing to him?

No doubt he's got the FDA and ASH barking in his ear, this will at least show him the other side of the coin. It's worth a shot.

 

[mtndude]

well then i will take that worry away and buy him a 510 and the best juice ive tried and send it to him.

Nothing wrong with the idea. That may be the quickest way to get some serious lab tests performed on the liquid... lol

 

[hyperdeficit]

Nothing wrong with the idea. That may be the quickest way to get some serious lab tests performed on the liquid... lol

i know right? you KNOW they would check that for ANYTHING at all hazardous and it would be an extensive check

 

[eric]

Bet he could do a better job if he wasn't fighting the cravings ...

You speak truth, Kinabaloo.

 

[jj2]

If I remember this right, someone said here that someone already gave Obama one.

 

[Webby]

If I remember this right, someone said here that someone already gave Obama one.

Not necessarily a bad idea, just one whose window may have passed.

President Obama May Be An E-Cigarette Smoker | E Cig Info Wars

It’s the same with a lot of people who may have been early proponents of e-cigs. The delay of the original Chinese manufacturers to meet early FDA requests, and lack of coordinated response from users or suppliers, has fast-tracked state level legislation (almost) to the point of no return.

IMO, subtleties are beyond us now. The ECA estimates that over a million PV kits have been sold. If you deduct 90% as one-time users (and SE/NJOY disillusioned users) that leaves 100,000 people who have tried e-cigs and liked them enough to use them (at least) occasionally.

We are a powerful voice with a common interest.

 

[kinabaloo]

Nothing wrong with the idea. That may be the quickest way to get some serious lab tests performed on the liquid... lol

LOL

a post by dragonpuff a few above is quite right - there's plenty of lobbyists bending his ear, why not some mails too ...

 

[kinabaloo]

Not necessarily a bad idea, just one whose window may have passed.

President Obama May Be An E-Cigarette Smoker | E Cig Info Wars

It’s the same with a lot of people who may have been early proponents of e-cigs. The delay of the original Chinese manufacturers to meet early FDA requests, and lack of coordinated response from users or suppliers, has fast-tracked state level legislation (almost) to the point of no return.

IMO, subtleties are beyond us now. The ECA estimates that over a million PV kits have been sold. If you deduct 90% as one-time users (and SE/NJOY disillusioned users) that leaves 100,000 people who have tried e-cigs and liked them enough to use them (at least) occasionally.

We are a powerful voice with a common interest.

How accurate is that 1million kits in the US figure, seems too high to me. And of course most users will have bought several kits.

On the other hand, 10% sticking with vaping is way to low a guess - might be as high as 70% (my guess).

I'd say there are about 100,000 vapers in the US; but would be happy to hear a more accurate figure.

ps: disagree the window of opportunity is passed. Need people to be more positive - 'can do / will do'. We certainly don't need organisations that say they will do things and then don't, just spend their time preparing excuses ...

 

[dragonpuff]

The question is, can we 100,000 stand up and be seen and heard amongst the 300,000,000 citizens of the U.S.?

Of course, i'll be sending Barack an email tomorrow ;-) i have a feeling that, even if he can't do much right now, he will listen

 

[Trashman]

This is one of the oldest ideas on the forum, hyperdeficit.

I'm sure the president already knows what e-cigs are, but has plenty of more important things to worry about than teaming up with the ECF agenda.

That's what my brother said. But change the angle. How much money could be saved in health care if millions of smokers had a better alternative.

He ran on change, the opposition to e-cigs are a pretty good example of the influence he vowed to oppose, big time lobbyists (BT and BP), and special interest groups.

Those are the two angles I've used in my emails to him. I even offered to come to DC for a beer and demonstration.

One pat reply, nothing on the others.

Can't hurt.

 

[Robert]

he's on the forum allready- under some other name..........................of course.......

I told him how to use the PTB last week in PM's.....................................

he got a 510 now, he was really ...... at that crappy smoking everywhere he bought first.

 

[Webby]

How accurate is that 1million kits in the US figure, seems too high to me. And of course most users will have bought several kits.

On the other hand, 10% sticking with vaping is way to low a guess - might be as high as 70% (my guess).

I'd say there are about 100,000 vapers in the US; but would be happy to hear a more accurate figure.

ps: disagree the window of opportunity is passed. Need people to be more positive - 'can do / will do'. We certainly don't need organisations that say they will do things and then don't, just spend their time preparing excuses ...

KB,

THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!!

DISAGREE! DEBATE!!! (I lose momentum when people agree with me.)

My friend, if you've been reading the ECO posts, then I hope you'd have more confidence in our goals than that. I’m not about to dissuade any efforts to promote public understanding of our community. Promoting user involvement has become a bit more than just a sideline hobby for our group.

“Can Do” we’re not short on. “Focused efforts” are what will keep e-cigs from following the same defeats that have happened in Long Island, Oregon and CA- 400.

The “1 million users” is based on a comment Lacey made (and defended) in the ECA forum and honestly, believing that a million units have been sold doesn’t really test the realm of credibility for me. My feelings about the ECA are well known, and while I may not always agree with their degree of attention to user issues, that number actually seems small based on the growth in the U.S. since January.

I really don’t mean to sound negative (about writing letters to the President), but Obama’s support is shielded by layers of political lobbyists and advisors far beyond a last minute Jack Bauer meeting under the guise of protecting National Security. F’real lads, it’s a lost cause.

C’mon guys. If you really want to make a difference, join the ECO (or whatever the membership calls it) and let’s work together. Sending 510 kits won’t get past the Whitehouse front gate and you know it. Cheerleading rallies to write letters to congressmen are an effort that had its chance months ago. What can we do NOW? THAT is the effort worth fighting.

Within our midst are advertising and marketing professionals, legal and financial experts, IT gurus and basic users – most who aren’t ready to order illegally from China or buy DIY kits and fill their garages with beakers and bathtub gin concoctions based off of recipes they download from the internet.

It ISN’T too late! Banning a product takes several stages. At any point, public opinion can sway the vote. Pundits will sit complacently on the sidelines and report later that “they saw the black helicopters on the horizon” Our public involvement will make the difference.

 

[LaceyUnderall]

hyper -

Your idea is a good one... however, a few things to think about:

I worked on the Hill for a bit and honestly, gifts that were sent, samples etc... rarely, and I mean rarely, ever make it to the "head of the office". However, a well written letter did and if the same person consistently ran a letter through the office, it definitely took notice because it ended up on the same persons desk and even though they get a lot of mail, 10 letters from the same person spaced a week apart in delivery, usually does not go unnoticed. While some of us believe that no-one listens, there are people just like us sitting in a cramped room, doing research, responding to letters, and taking what they feel is important to the next level in their weekly meetings. If you can get yourself onto someone's list... then power!

Also, this is my understanding of the PV that made it to the WH.

A Congressman from Ohio had one and apparently, it is he who gave it to the President. In order to get something into the hands of the President, it would have to go through another elected official who has good report with the President.

There were also rumors awhile back that some of the Congressmen who openly admitted to smoking an ecig may or may not have given him one.

Either way, do what you feel you need to do to be proactive. Be very careful about what you send to the White House as there seems to be a new sense of "terror" and they are most likely going to scrutinize everything. If you do send a kit, I would certainly stay away from the units that do not resemble a pen style or a cigarette... as well... some other styles come extremely close to homemade pipe you know whats.

I agree with Kinabaloo - It is never too late to do anything. Our voices need to be heard... and from what I see happen around ECF, well... people call for picket signs and do this and lets do that... but can't even go and post one post on http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning/36446-dailyshow-story-ideas-message-board-2.html or try and get noticed on The Bill Maher Show. EDIT: And I don't mean this in a mean way at all... We talk about action, and then some do and some don't and well... we all need to do! Whatever we can, no matter what it is or how small someone else thinks it is. Our disabled PV users might not be able to go to a Vape-In, but they can certainly write letters and they should never think the time has passed.

 

[Webby]

It seems I heard the same story, certainly would be nice to see a photo op of the big cheese with a PV clenched in his teeth FDR-style.

Thanks Lacey -

 

[julianka]

How about sending an e-cig to Michelle and getting HER to get HIM to try it?