beginner Looking to get a small mod easy to use.

[Coastal Cowboy]

are the external batteries more dangerous in any way at all ?

There's no way to tell for sure without knowing the exact chemistry of the internal batteries. Some chemistries are safer than others. The Li ion batteries you're looking at are generally safe as long as they're not abused.

The Pico and most other regulated devices have circuitry in them that reduce risk, but taking care of your cells when they're outside of the device is a good idea. Don't carry them loose in a pocket or bag/backpack with keys. Don't throw the around, and make sure the colored plastic wrap is kept from damage by sharp stuff.

 

[Winchester]

Howdy and Welcome!
You may want to look at the Joyetech eViv-VTC mini. I have used mine for over a year and a half every day all day long and it is still working. I can't tell you how many times I have dropped it and it just keeps working. It is 75 watts so you can use it for a tank or an RDA. Batteries I recommend Samsung R25 they are last for long time if you charge them and rotate them. Get a good charger and get a 4 bay you will need it later. Lastly have back-ups for everything.

 

[Rhiannimal]

That's a really hard question to answer. From what I remember, internal batteries actually have a more dangerous chemistry. However, external batteries are out and about more so more things tend to happen to them. The key point to remember is that batteries don't just decide to blow up for the heck of it. To stay safe:

• Don't ever carry a battery loose in your pocket. Actually, don't ever let a battery hang around loose. When not in the mod or the charger, make sure it's always in a case or skin.
  
• Do not use a battery that's physically damaged, and that includes damage to the wrap (the plastic that covers it). If the wrap gets nicked, it's cheap and easy to rewrap a battery. If you don't want to do that, many vape shops will do it for free.
• Don't ask too much of the battery. This usually happens in mech mods so it's not so much of an issue for you, but also stay under the 50 - 60 w I mentioned earlier. It's very unlikely a battery would blow up even if you turned the wattage up as high as it would go, but it's better not to try it.
• Get a good charger - one of the ones I mentioned earlier will be fine. A cheap charger can overcharge batteries, which causes problems.
• If something 'weird' happens - a battery really heats up, something strange happens with the charger - recycle the battery. If you're not sure if something's a problem, drop by the forum and ask before you use the battery again.

The most common causes of fires or explosions (and such events are extremely rare, despite the attention they get) are batteries carried loose in a pocket (which bump into something metal and short-circuit) or mech users who don't understand what they're doing using a coil with resistance that's too low.

thank you for all the help! I looked at that chart and I decided to get this :
the pico 75watt with 2 of the Sony 18650 VTC5a 2600mAh 25A batteries and the
D2 Nitecore Universal charger. (And the nautilus X.) i also got a silicone case thing for the extra battery.

this is the best i think for the selection i get on the canada site i use.

 

[QcVaper]

I have and still use an Aspire NX75 from time to time, nothing fancy just a small black box that has all you need and more (provides a nice "slack" in case you'd need more wattage or something) First used this one with a nautilus tank myself and can't lie i liked the way it looked quite a bit. Unfortunately i don't have the nautilus anymore but that small mod always gave me sufficient battery life even though i own 2 cells for it.

 

[dennism]

I think the pico 75 is a good choice. I have 3 of them and they work great.

 

[suprtrkr]

Anymore, it's getting hard to buy one that doesn't have all the Froot Loops. I think the Pico will do you just fine. Another choice I like is the Kanger Topbox kit, but that's more expensive. I like to recommend that one as it is very flexible and can do all sorts of things. People who are still looking for their "perfect vape" tend to appreciate the flexibility as it allows them to try a bunch of different stuff.

 

[MJCSD]

Hello and Welcome to ecf

 

[stols001]

The pico is a great choice for what you are looking for, I hope you enjoy it when it arrives! I like that kit quite a bit....

Anna

 

[AnthonyMcDevitt91]

You should check out the Vaporesso Target Pro 75w. I've had one for about 4 or 5 months and I really enjoyed it. It is a single battery mod, small, and surprisingly sturdy and well put together. The thing I really love about it though is the looks. The shape is unique, and comes in some neat color designs. It does also come with software to customize stuff if you wish to get into that sort of thing in the future (although that part is a bit buggy in my experience). The starter kits come with a weird half ceramic half cotton tank. Wasn't a big fan of it but unfortunately I could not find the mod by itself. The kit costs $50-$60

EDIT:
Oh sorry, I diddn't notice the second page and that you already purchased the pico. The pico is nice too IMO.

 

[BrotherBob]

thank you for all the help! I looked at that chart and I decided to get this :
the pico 75watt with 2 of the Sony 18650 VTC5a 2600mAh 25A batteries and the
D2 Nitecore Universal charger. (And the nautilus X.) i also got a silicone case thing for the extra battery.
this is the best i think for the selection i get on the canada site i use.

Might want to consider buying an ohm meter and a few battery wraps.

 

[Hawise]

thank you for all the help! I looked at that chart and I decided to get this :
the pico 75watt with 2 of the Sony 18650 VTC5a 2600mAh 25A batteries and the
D2 Nitecore Universal charger. (And the nautilus X.) i also got a silicone case thing for the extra battery.

The Nautilus X is often overlooked since the Nautilus 2 came out, but I much prefer it. Good choice. Full points for picking up the battery case while you're at it.

 

[Gramdogg]

Anymore, it's getting hard to buy one that doesn't have all the Froot Loops. I think the Pico will do you just fine. Another choice I like is the Kanger Topbox kit, but that's more expensive. I like to recommend that one as it is very flexible and can do all sorts of things. People who are still looking for their "perfect vape" tend to appreciate the flexibility as it allows them to try a bunch of different stuff.

The Subox Mini C is a great one. Tank should have came with MTL coil to restrict it a bit since the airflow isn't adjustable and is like sucking on a wide open RDA but for $30 chuck the SubTank Mini C and just buy a TopTank/SubTank to use the free coil lol. 50w, no temp control or anything and comes in more color options... feels a few mm smaller width because of the indent under the 510 too. Same size but feels much smaller then a EVIC VTC Mini in the hand. I never cared for the Pico, AL85 etc.. 10.5mm shorter and makes tanks look shorter but it feels like a 2 battery mod in the hand. 45.5mm width on the Pico, 38mm on the Subox and feels like 35mm. Basically do you want 10.5mm shorter or 10.5mm smaller?

 

[vapdivrr]

I have and still use an Aspire NX75 from time to time, nothing fancy just a small black box that has all you need and more (provides a nice "slack" in case you'd need more wattage or something) First used this one with a nautilus tank myself and can't lie i liked the way it looked quite a bit. Unfortunately i don't have the nautilus anymore but that small mod always gave me sufficient battery life even though i own 2 cells for it.

I have a few of the nx 75-a, really a great little mod! I love small , single 18650 mods and besides a couple of hi end stratums I got, this nx by aspire and the S body macro are about the smallest I have come across. Although the sbody is slightly smaller, I prefer the quality of the aspire a bit more

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[Augmxnted]

i have a tsunami v power that i use when my smok is charging. it has a pretty decent battery life actually and its very very simple to use, coils are cheap and very easy to change. it doesnt produce alot of vapor but if you dont care about that i'd highly recommend it.

 

[Baditude]

are the external batteries more dangerous in any way at all ?

Chemistry-wise, external batteries are a "safer" chemistry than the internal LiPo batteries. However, because they can be carried loosely, that means that greater care must be exercised to avoid shorting out the batteries accidentally. Always carry loose external batteries in a plastic battery case because metalic objects (coins, keys) in pockets can cause a hard short.

LiPo batteries are a volatile chemistry which require chip protection circuitry to allow them to be used at all. A saving grace is that since they are not removeable they are perhaps a better choice for novices with little knowledge of batteries and don't require the added expense of a separate box charger.


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