beginner questions for first mod safety

[jwjordan322]

So this is a complete edit of my first post.
I guess I'm more looking at a regulated mod for now. I have allot of reading and learning until I buy a mod.

A couple questions about a regulated.

Does higher watts always mean hotter vapor? I want more vapor but not so hot that is unenjoyable.

I see that the I stick 30 can go down to .4 ohms. Which is more then plenty for me. Can it still handle a 1.9 atty for a clearomizer?

My biggest thing I'm trying to gain is vapor production.

A 1 ohm is gonna produce more then my current 1.9 in my nautilus correct?

Sorry for the confusion.

Any any insight or useful info on the top of your head about regulated mods would be great

 

[Susan~S]

What type of mod are you looking at? Mechanical or regulated?

 

[jwjordan322]

I would prefer a mech simply for the price. A regulated would be a little out of my price range currently. But would be more simple and dummy proof.

 

[Susan~S]

This is Matt (from Suck My Mod) vaping a mini Nautilus on an rDNA (a 30 watt devise).

[MODERATED]


You could purchase the new iStick 30 watt. And you could get an RDA/RTA to use on it.

With a mech mod the only way to "fine tune" your vape is to build a new coil. With a higher vv/vw regulated mod (and its buck/boost circuitry) you can "fine tune" with a push of a button. On a mechanical mod your voltage drops as you vape, with a regulated mod this does not happen. Your first hit is just as good as your last hit. And then there's the safety factors.

If you want I can post all those links too.

 

[jwjordan322]

How much roughly?

 

[Susan~S]

Here is my mech/rebuildable safety post.

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If you are new to mech mods and rebuildables I highly recommend you spend some time with Baditude (one of our resident battery experts) and visit his blogs. You are now 100% in control of your own safety (and others around you). Make sure you purchase an ohm reader and a voltmeter or DMM so you can measure your builds, check for shorts and measure the remaining charge on your batteries.

Baditudes Blogs. The blogs regarding mods and rebuildables are listed below:

BATTERIES

9. Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
* Another essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.

17. Purple Efest Batteries Not As Advertised
* A cautionary blog that reveals that the purple Efest batteries may not have the specifications advertised. Also includes a commentary on "continuous discharge ratings" vs "pulse discharge ratings" of battery specs.

OHM'S LAW

14. Ohm's Law for Dummies (Vapers)
* My attempt at explaining Ohm's Law in layman terms and how it relates to vaping.

16. Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations
* As simple as it is to use, some people have a tough time grasping the concept. Warning: Includes graphic photos of mod explosions.

MECHANICAL MODS & REBUILDABLES

7. Information Resources for Your First RBA
* An essential read and reference guide for someone new to rebuilding coils. Includes a multitude of useful links on battery safety, mod safety, coil meters, coil building, and the differences in the three types of RBA's.

15. Inexpensive Mechanical Mod and RDA Setup
* A response to the frequently asked question on how to get into rebuildable atomizers with a mechanical mod inexpensively. Includes a list of commonly used tools and supplies for rebuilding and where to find them.

BATTERIES - WHERE TO BUY

Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* RTD Vapor
* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics

 

[Susan~S]

How much roughly?

Click on the link. It runs between $30-$35.

 

[edyle]

Hopefully today or tomorrow I'll be purchasing my first mod from a local vape shop.

I currently am using a MVP 2 with a Nautilus mini tank.

I want to upgrade for a couple reasons.
The vapor I get from my MVP is alright but I tend to hit the 10 second cut off allllot and just would enjoy more vapor.
I'd like to buy a rda and build at about 1 ohm.
I'd simply just like to double my vapor production.

I'm just confused with a few different things.

I understand the function and purpose of a mod, witch is what draws me to them,i just see allot of dangers associated with them.

I know I will need to buy a battery. There are "safer " batteries correct to avoid over drawing them?

One other thing I don't understand is the relation between battery volts? And what the negative effects can possibly be.

For now I plan to stay around .8- 1.2 ohm builds

Just looking for info to go about this safely.

I can buy a mod for about 30$ as well as a RDA for about 30 at my local shop. Just need some info on safety before I make a plunge.

Sorry for the wall of text, and thanks in advance

If you currently use a Nautilus on an MVP and want to go to an rda, just get the rda and stick it on your MVP and work from there for a few weeks before looking to spend on another mod.

A regulated mod isn't particularly expensive; if you go the cheap route and look to get a cheap mechanical bottom fired mod that's where the safety issues start flooding in.

And pay more attention to the wire GAUGE than the ohms.
A good all round gauge is 30 gauge kanthal.
A common gauge used on rebuildables is 28 gauge for 1 ohm coil vaping at 10 to 15 watts.

 

[jwjordan322]

With that being said. Regulated looks to be more up my alley for now. I like the looks of the I stick 30.

Would something like that be a upgrade from my MVP?

And if I did go buy an RDA for my MVP would it increase vapor compared to my natilus mini?

 

[Susan~S]

With that being said. Regulated looks to be more up my alley for now. I like the looks of the I stick 30.

Would something like that be a upgrade from my MVP?

And if I did go buy an RDA for my MVP would it increase vapor compared to my natilus mini?

Yes, the iStick 30 watt would be an upgrade. The MVP only goes up to 11 watts. The iStick in the link goes up to 30 watts. The MVP can't fire anything below ~1.0 ohms (though 1 have a couple that will fire lower BUT only at 11 watts). The iStick 30 watt will fire a 0.4 ohm build.

You can run an RDA on your MVP and get more vapor depending on which RDA you buy. You can also run high VG juice on an RDA and that will give you more vapor as well.

The iSticks are great with a Nautilus and RDA/RTA's. I run some of my rebuildables and my Nautilus on the iStick 20 watt.

 

[HecticEnergy]

You'd want an RDA with a single coil option as the MVP can't really power a dual coil.. it "CAN" but its not as good assuming you have the MVP1/2 and not the 20w/3
So yes, 30w is greater than 11w - higher wattage means more heat, which can be more vapor

 

[sparkky1]

With that being said. Regulated looks to be more up my alley for now. I like the looks of the I stick 30.

Would something like that be a upgrade from my MVP?

And if I did go buy an RDA for my MVP would it increase vapor compared to my natilus mini?

Have you tried using a higher VG ratio juice ?

 

[edyle]

With that being said. Regulated looks to be more up my alley for now. I like the looks of the I stick 30.

Would something like that be a upgrade from my MVP?

And if I did go buy an RDA for my MVP would it increase vapor compared to my natilus mini?

I'd go for a replaceable battery mod as an upgrade to the MVP;
eg a vamo(7-9), svd2, or elvt2

an mvp or istick is good for somebody just starting

 

[jwjordan322]

I have been stuck on suicide bunny's sucker Punch.
And I think it's 70 VG 30 pg. My local shop just got in some
"Cloud chasers" witch is max vg. Maybe I'll go sample some of their flavors today

 

[jwjordan322]

I like the cool vape my Nautilus gives off. If I was to get a 20-30 w mod, would the vapor be super warm at 20+ watts? Unenjoyable?
That's the only thing I'm worried about

 

[HecticEnergy]

I like the cool vape my Nautilus gives off. If I was to get a 20-30 w mod, would the vapor be super warm at 20+ watts? Unenjoyable?
That's the only thing I'm worried about

largely that depends on your build and airflow. I like a cooler vape as well, Sometimes I vape around 12, some times 25, depending on the build.

 

[Susan~S]

I like the cool vape my Nautilus gives off. If I was to get a 20-30 w mod, would the vapor be super warm at 20+ watts? Unenjoyable?
That's the only thing I'm worried about

If you run a Nautilus at anything over about 18-19 watts you will get dry hits and scorch the wicking material. 18 watts is about the highest I go with my Nautilus.

 

[jwjordan322]

largely that depends on your build and airflow. I like a cooler vape as well, Sometimes I vape around 12, some times 25, depending on the build.

What kind of builds differ that much in wattage?
Tank vs dripper? Or simply the ohms of coil built?

 

[HecticEnergy]

What kind of builds differ that much in wattage?
Tank vs dripper? Or simply the ohms of coil built?

Ohms in coil. Two kayfuns ru between 1.2 and 1.6ohms. Single coil drippers same. Dual coil drippers .8 on regulated... .3-.7 on mech


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[sparkky1]

1.2 ohm 26 gauge single micro coil 18 watts : LEMO
Your able to fine tune your preferred vape with the coil build type.......