Freedom of speech, alas, does not require those speaking to be accurate, or even correct in their assumptions...
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Give me a couple million taxpayer dollars, and I'll do a study that proves the exhalations raise the ambient temperature around the vaper by a fraction of a degree. I'll call my friends scholars and get them to agree with me. Then I can say, "research has shown..."
I hate to tell ya but for half that price I can get the temp up a full one degree.
Give me a couple million taxpayer dollars, and I'll do a study that proves the exhalations raise the ambient temperature around the vaper by a fraction of a degree. I'll call my friends scholars and get them to agree with me. Then I can say, "research has shown..."
I hate to tell ya but for half that price I can get the temp up a full one degree.
Hell, just put several (sl)ANTZ(z), a few attorneys general, and one or two congressmen in a room and all that hot air will prove absolutely without question that global warming is a fact....
OK, one million it is! Fake...I mean, respectable research funded by the government it is! I'll even get charts and graphs and all kinds of officially stuff!I hate to tell ya but for half that price I can get the temp up a full one degree.
Eight out of ten experts agree!
Yeah but at least it used to have a built in concept of a certain amount of responsibility involved. That whole "can't yell FIRE! in a crowded theater when there is no fire" thing. Alas, the Constitution doesn't seem to discern between "freedom of speech" and "fast and loose of speech."
Yeah but at least it used to have a built in concept of a certain amount of responsibility involved. That whole "can't yell FIRE! in a crowded theater when there is no fire" thing. Alas, the Constitution doesn't seem to discern between "freedom of speech" and "fast and loose of speech."
Ya know I was just thinking about this today... the fire in the crowded movie house thing - you shouldn't be allowed to scream "third hand vapor!" or "antifreeze!" in a society full of people who are killing themselves daily with smoking.
Less likely to start a fire in a crowded movie house with vaping
Yeah but at least it used to have a built in concept of a certain amount of responsibility involved. That whole "can't yell FIRE! in a crowded theater when there is no fire" thing. Alas, the Constitution doesn't seem to discern between "freedom of speech" and "fast and loose of speech."
The Founders didn't hold that idea regarding fire or even 'responsible speech'. Madison et. al. were pretty clear - "Congress shall pass No law ...abridging freedom of speech".
They would have asked Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes - "What part of "No" did you not understand?"
And to his credit Holmes reversed earlier ruling in subsequent cases joining Justice Brandeis upholding a correct reading of the 1st Amendment.
"Even Justice Holmes may have quickly realized the gravity of his opinions in Schneck and its companion cases. Later in the same term, Holmes suddenly dissented in a similar case, Abrams vs. United States, which sent Russian immigrants to jail under the Espionage Act. It would become the first in a long string of dissents Holmes and fellow Justice Louis Brandies would write in defense of free speech that collectively laid the groundwork for Court decisions in the 1960s and 1970s that shaped the First Amendment jurisprudence of today."
It's Time to Stop Using the 'Fire in a Crowded Theater' Quote - Trevor Timm - The Atlantic
This is pretty funny. I'm a respected professor and researcher in public health or at least some believe I am. I was posting a few years ago under my real name on some web site. Someone accused me of being a shill since I had died a year earlier. I couldn't figure out what they were talking about so I started googling.
It turns out they were partially right. There was a professor with the same name who had died in '08. In fact, he was born less than 4 months before me. I've always considered that kind of bizarre. A public health professional with the same name passing away at least 5 years before a 43 year smoker. Go figure.
I get emails from professional organizations that somehow have associated me with him I suppose. Anyway, I'm in on the professional scam, it's worked for Slantz.
I'm officially applying for the position of lab assistant for your study. I have excellent qualifications, as I once played one in a comic opera. And to sweeten the pot, I come with artwork for the laboratory:
Well, there aren't laws mandating that news outlets provide accurate information. But there used to be ethics involved, and once upon a time these were taken pretty seriously.
I think the "research for hire" trend is the worst however; once we start politicising science we're headed back to the dark ages....
I think the "research for hire" trend is the worst however; once we start politicising science we're headed back to the dark ages....
Give me a couple million taxpayer dollars, and I'll do a study that proves the exhalations raise the ambient temperature around the vaper by a fraction of a degree. I'll call my friends scholars and get them to agree with me. Then I can say, "research has shown..."
Say - can we have them banned for that?
If eight out of ten experts agree that all this hot air greatly contributes to global warming.. and rothenbj - with his important professional reputation as a public health expert - being one of them (
) ... with AgentAnia doing the artwork.... what can go wrong?Oh, may I apply for a job as executive assistant in your wonderful research environment, please?
I have tons of qualifications too, and I work with language, wording, expressing things every day
And I would most certainly give the audience a choice whether to believe our arguments or not.
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Now that certainly is interesting. Thank you for posting this.
....Oh, may I apply for a job as executive assistant in your wonderful research environment, please?
I have tons of qualifications too, and I work with language, wording, expressing things every day
And I would most certainly give the audience a choice whether to believe our arguments or not.....
While I'm not in charge of this new venture so can't say yea or nay, I'd say, Anja, with your language skills, you seem well qualified to quickly learn Weaselspeak and twist whatever the truth actually is to make it conform to our agenda! I nominate you for Chief Information Officer!
Say - can we have them banned for that?
If eight out of ten experts agree that all this hot air greatly contributes to global warming.. and rothenbj - with his important professional reputation as a public health expert - being one of them (
Oh, may I apply for a job as executive assistant in your wonderful research environment, please?
I have tons of qualifications too, and I work with language, wording, expressing things every day
And I would most certainly give the audience a choice whether to believe our arguments or not.
@Kent C:
Now that certainly is interesting. Thank you for posting this.
The only think I find wrong with your graphic is that the cow should be replaced with a sheep. A perfect view of politics in Amerika.
Oooh thank you!
I'll make you proud, I promise! You mean like this?
But then, of course, I will have to swear off such .. nasty.. images if I really get the job as Chief DisInformation Officer... *sigh*
I will just put on my sweetest smile.
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Oooh thank you!
You mean like this?
But then, of course, I will have to swear off such .. nasty.. images if I really get the job as Chief DisInformation Officer... *sigh*
Now that's the perfect graphic.
Anything to please our great public health expert *fawns*
Which was Weaselspeak for : my pleasure, dear
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