Best build for cloud chasing?

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Baditude

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Edit: Also on cloud chasing, it is indeed fun, but just please be careful. I just watched Rip's "Cloud chasing 101 part 2" And he builds a .06 or a .09 coil using a VTC5.... All while saying "Safety is number 1 blah blah blah use VTC5's blah blah blah" While I do enjoy his videos, this upset me. A .09 coil build is pulling 46.66667 amps on a fresh battery. WELL above the 30 amp limit. While VTC5's do have a 60 amp pulsing limit, IMO this still isn't very smart. Especially to be showing off to people who could be misinformed.
Just my :2c:, but that is simply irresponsible on Rip's part. That's putting a lot of faith in the accuracy of a $15 ohm reader. Anything below 0.2 ohm is irresponsible or ignorant because 0.09 ohms is just 0.09 ohms away from a dead short and a vented battery.

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@ Cullin Kin: I couldn't agree more, quite humble and honest, which is really in his favor.

@Baditude: Exactly my point. I just shook my head watching. I'm about to pick up a new Ohm meter for backup, any ideas where I can get a nice one, preferably reading to the thousandths? I don't plan on going below .25 even (well not at the time of writing this post anyways) , accuracy with something like this can't hurt though.
 

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As I look at the chart of the amps I notice something. The amps become progressively higher as you go down on resistances. Each increment has a small rise but at .3 and below the amps practically double between each one. Why is that?

1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw

Math and physics were not my better subjects in school. All I can tell you is the lower the resistance of a coil, the more electrons are used and the hotter the coil becomes. It's Ohm's Law.

0.0 ohms is zero resistance and a dead short. This is what is feared in vaping. It is what causes a battery to go into thermal runaway.

 
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I hear Fluke digital multimeters are top of the line, but they run above $150 for the cheapest ones, and still require routine calibration.

Fluke equipment is all mostly top of line which is why it is expensive. I don't use their multi meter but I do use a couple of other pieces of their equipment for work ... all top notch stuff I would purchase without hesitation.
 

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I own 2 Fluke multimeters (auto technician by trade) and they are worth the money. I don't even use my resistance tester anymore because all my builds read about +/- 0.0x off. I sub ohm all the time, from the time I wake to the time I go to sleep. The build I am using now is 0.18 Ohm twisted 24g dual coil. While it may not seem like much a few hundredths (at this level) make the difference on my VTC4's being safe and being unsafe. Never take anything for face value when you're potentially putting yourself at risk. Double check everything, and you will have the peace of mind to enjoy it.

Also, do not take a warning as a fluke. If something starts to get hot (switch, tube, anything that doesn't normally) then stop and recheck. Make sure you're contacts are clean, make sure they are getting a solid connection. Any scorched spots on your battery or contacts or tube indicate you are doing something wrong. I had this happen to me once, my switch was getting warm after a 2-3 second pull. I took it all apart, and my bottom contact wasn't adjusted properly because I had built my new build in a different rda and did not adjust the contact pins to accommodate the slightly shorter 510 connector.

Never take anything for granted, get in the routine of double checking everything when you change anything. Be conscious of the fact that what you're doing probably won't kill you, but it will hurt, bad.
 

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I own 2 Fluke multimeters (auto technician by trade) and they are worth the money. I don't even use my resistance tester anymore because all my builds read about +/- 0.0x off. I sub ohm all the time, from the time I wake to the time I go to sleep. The build I am using now is 0.18 Ohm twisted 24g dual coil. While it may not seem like much a few hundredths (at this level) make the difference on my VTC4's being safe and being unsafe. Never take anything for face value when you're potentially putting yourself at risk. Double check everything, and you will have the peace of mind to enjoy it.

Also, do not take a warning as a fluke. If something starts to get hot (switch, tube, anything that doesn't normally) then stop and recheck. Make sure you're contacts are clean, make sure they are getting a solid connection. Any scorched spots on your battery or contacts or tube indicate you are doing something wrong. I had this happen to me once, my switch was getting warm after a 2-3 second pull. I took it all apart, and my bottom contact wasn't adjusted properly because I had built my new build in a different RDA and did not adjust the contact pins to accommodate the slightly shorter 510 connector.

Never take anything for granted, get in the routine of double checking everything when you change anything. Be conscious of the fact that what you're doing probably won't kill you, but it will hurt, bad.

You sir said it all. Good day. :)
 

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Also on cloud chasing, it is indeed fun, but just please be careful. I just watched Rip's "Cloud chasing 101 part 2" And he builds a .06 or a .09 coil using a VTC5.... All while saying "Safety is number 1 blah blah blah use VTC5's blah blah blah" While I do enjoy his videos, this upset me. A .09 coil build is pulling 46.66667 amps on a fresh battery. WELL above the 30 amp limit. While VTC5's do have a 60 amp pulsing limit, IMO this still isn't very smart. Especially to be showing off to people who could be misinformed.
Its still well within the standard pulse rating, which is what we are doing.
 
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