Thank you everybody for the replies, I use a kanger tech but the one I have is to bulky and all of the smaller pens I've found just burn way to hot. I will have to try one of the spinners
I second the itaste. You can find them here. http://vspotvapes.com/product/innokin-itaste-vv4/They are better quality themn any pen I've used. I still have a v4 and a couple of v3. I fee like my Cool Fire 4 just works better, but I do understand that most new vapers don't like box mods.
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