I have tried both and scale > volume hands down, even if you have to use a few pipettes/syringes that you wash/reuse then recycle.
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I have tried both and scale > volume hands down, even if you have to use a few pipettes/syringes that you wash/reuse then recycle.
The kit I ordered has 60 ml of each pg and vg. Not sure how long that will last me. So far I've been going through a 105 ml bottle of juice in about 2 weeks. The juice is max vg. I'm vaping in sub ohm tank and rdas. Should I pick up some vg from this place since they have it on sale? I assume that I'm going to be going through the vg A LOT faster than I would go through the pg.
That wont't last you much over 2 weeks if my math is correct.
You will need more VG if using pg flavors. I bought 3 gals of each when I was vaping 50/50 not really thinking about the pg dominant flavors of the popular vendors. I have since changed to 70vg and my first gal of vg is empty while I have nearly half of the first gallon of pg left. Going forward I will be buying only VG then buying 3vg:1pg cubes and using alcohol based flavors from Real Flavors when I need more flavoring.
I mixed a 10ml bottle by weght and didn't have any issues. No I didn't hit .30mg every time. But I was at .29 or .31. Just have to concentrate.
Not sure that posters reasons and I wouldn't say that weighing is greater than or the obvious choice for everyone.
For me it just simplified things so much and it made sense to me. It took the factor of "can I DIY" and dialed it down to "yes I can" if I did it by weight.
I think people should choose what they think will work for them the best, or try both.
^^-- It would be good to have a scale for flavors in dropper bottles that are large numbers of drops, slow to count that high. Anything that is best transferred in a syringe or pipette already provides adequate measurement for me.
faster, easier to be more accurate for me and less things/time to clean up
Mixing By Weight: Basics 101
@JCinFLA if I'm just starting out and vape on mostly max VG, what jug should I get from that website? 10 lbs jug be enough to last me a while? I know it's cheap but should I go ahead and stock up on it while the sale is going on? I also went to the website and put added the 10 lbs jug and the price is different than on the post you shared. Do I have to add in a coupon code?
OK, just read your post and did some rough, quick figuring. If you vape about 50mLs eliquid per week, at Max VG (I used 80/20 ratio for figuring), use Nic Base in 100% VG, and allow for about 10% flavoring in each 50mL bottle...you'd use about 31-37mL of plain VG in each 50mL bottle (depends on your final Nic mg, too, since I figured using a Nic base in 100% VG).
So, at that rate of usage...a (1) 10lb gallon jug of VG (3,790mLs) would last you about 1.97 years - 2.35 years. So...a long time either way.
It's up to you, but based on what I found on BA website...it would cost you a total of $21.26 including shipping to get 1 gallon to you. It would cost only $33.27 including shipping to get 2 gallons to you! That's only $11.01 more to get another whole gallon including delivery. Choose the UPS Ground option for your shipping choice to get the above prices.
By the way, as long as you keep VG and/or PG in a fairly cool and dark place (closet or cabinet in your house)...it'll be fine for an extended time. There are people on here who say they're still using both that they've had for 4+ years.
And yes, you have to input the code VGSALE in the coupon box on the Shopping Cart page.
Make sense?
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I would get some PG ($3 there) if you want some PG and don't want a minimum flavoring level (consistency etc.). Another option is PG-based nic, I usually want more PG (a lot more) in high-nic applications, or there's even 50/50.
I haven't watched any of the You Tube videos or others that apparently show someone measuring by volume and someone measuring by weight. (I don't need to, since I have experience with both types of measuring, volume with DIY and by weight and volume when teaching Science classes for many years.)
I just cannot understand how 99% who measure by weight practically insist that it's: easier, faster, requires less clean-up, is more accurate, etc., etc. It's as if measuring by weight is THE only way/correct way to do it! It's just very blatant and in-your-face to newbies to DIY and to the rest of us. I've only seen a very few who simply say it "works the best for them", or "in their opinion", etc.
It seems like it's some sort of competition to see how many newbies can be convinced of measuring by weight! It's a "victory" of some sort when they choose it. Like they'll be DIY wrong...if they don't choose that method. You certainly don't see those who measure by volume being as vocal or insistant that their method is THE way! There are several ways, and each is fine to use. I just don't get it at all.
I'll just continue telling people there are several methods, tell them the basics of each if they ask, and that they should choose what's most comfortable for themselves. I do tell them I choose to measure by volume, but I certainly don't "knock" the other methods, nor tell them by volume is the best method, simply because that's the method I choose to use.
Oh, forgot this - This is the last post I'll make about the above, and not understanding what's posted many times. It doesn't seem to make any difference anyway in what's presented to the newbies.
I just cannot understand how 99% who measure by weight practically insist that it's: easier, faster, requires less clean-up, is more accurate, etc., etc. It's as if measuring by weight is THE only way/correct way to do it! It's just very blatant and in-your-face to newbies to DIY and to the rest of us. I've only seen a very few who simply say it "works the best for them", or "in their opinion", etc.
It seems like it's some sort of competition to see how many newbies can be convinced of measuring by weight! It's a "victory" of some sort when they choose it. Like they'll be DIY wrong...if they don't choose that method. You certainly don't see those who measure by volume being as vocal or insistant that their method is THE way! There are several ways, and each is fine to use. I just don't get it at all.
I'll just continue telling people there are several methods, tell them the basics of each if they ask, and that they should choose what's most comfortable for themselves. I do tell them I choose to measure by volume, but I certainly don't "knock" the other methods, nor tell them by volume is the best method, simply because that's the method I choose to use.
Oh, forgot this - This is the last post I'll make about the above, and not understanding what's posted many times. It doesn't seem to make any difference anyway in what's presented to the newbies.
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I don't think anyone is knocking anyone else's method. I think people are just presenting what they think is the best way and their reasons for it. I mix by weight because I think it's the simplest and requires no cleanup at all. However others find a different method works best for them and that's fine too.
It comes down to whatever works for the person. I understand that. I will play around with both and decide on my own what works best for me and go with it. Being new to this I understand that everybody is different and have different methods. It's all personal preference. Thanks for all the advice to everyone who has commented.
I don't really insist that people new to DIY should do it by weight. I recommend it because it just looked so simple and easy to me. It made sense to me. I looked at volume weighing and it appeared to be more complicated. I could be totally off base thinking that volume is more or less complicated than by weight, but I saw something that made sense to me and something I felt comfortable doing.
I'm really in to DIY and vaping and I plan on doing lots of different things in the future. Mixing by volume is on the list. And when I get to that point, even if I think it's the best thing in the world, I would never push it as the only way.
I'm having trouble understanding why this bothers you so much. I can understand the one post saying that by weight is the obvious choice. But the other post don't come off in that tone.
I also understand why you choose to buy your flavors from a place not far from you. I love in NC, 30 minutes from BCV. I like BCV. So I recommend them.
Most all of us post based on experience and try to answer the OP the best we can with that experience.
Cheers.
@Tinman - You weren't one of the "by weight" people I was referring to at all. Also, my comments above weren't based on just this 1 discussion. It's very obvious on many other discussions having to do with DIY though, and has been for a long while.
As to why it "bothers me so much", 1 reason is the above. Another is, that it just flat bothers me that so many people present their opinions, about many things, as if they were facts. I mean, take the recent election...same thing applies there, as to who was the so-called "right person" to vote for. Have heard some very heated discussions about how wrong people were, because they didn't vote a certain way. Geez - they voted based on their own opinions, whoever they voted for!
Another reason may be that while teaching for 30 years, I taught my students to consider and weigh all options, sides, choices, etc. about anything...and then make up their own minds and choose what's best in their opinion, for themselves. Also, that everyone has a right to an opinion, and no one can tell them their opinion isn't the right one for them! It's just hard to see that not taking place among adults then.
Also, I've never had any problem with anyone posting about where they get their supplies for DIY, or recommending any place. People choose various places for a variety of different reasons, the way it should be IMO.
As to why it "bothers me so much", 1 reason is the above. Another is, that it just flat bothers me that so many people present their opinions, about many things, as if they were facts. I mean, take the recent election...same thing applies there, as to who was the so-called "right person" to vote for. Have heard some very heated discussions about how wrong people were, because they didn't vote a certain way. Geez - they voted based on their own opinions, whoever they voted for!
Another reason may be that while teaching for 30 years, I taught my students to consider and weigh all options, sides, choices, etc. about anything...and then make up their own minds and choose what's best in their opinion, for themselves. Also, that everyone has a right to an opinion, and no one can tell them their opinion isn't the right one for them! It's just hard to see that not taking place among adults then.
Also, I've never had any problem with anyone posting about where they get their supplies for DIY, or recommending any place. People choose various places for a variety of different reasons, the way it should be IMO.
I've noticed a lot of newbie threads with a little too much advanced "good to know" info. There are things that are good to know, but it can overwhelm the answers to the original questions, and overwhelm the newbie as well. Too much of a good thing!
For starting to DIY I recommend the Liquid Barn Starter Kit because it is everything you need to get started and make yourself over 1,400 ML's of e-Liquids. Once you get going you have everything you need in terms of lab-ware and you can get more flavors when you are ready. There are many coupon codes around to use or just ask me.
I looked at them but one thing I didn't like is they don't tell you the brand names of the flavors they have. So if I made a juice and really loved it I could only get the juice from there unlike other places where they tell you the manufacture of the flavors so I could go back and get them anywhere that manufacture is sold. I already got a kit though. Thanks for you input @SteveS45
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