Best set up for RDA clouds?

[Fatboy 589]

Right now I'm running a triple coil on my Nimbus x K100 set up. Two coils are wrapped with regular 28ga kanthal, the third coil is running braided 28ga kanthal, I'm at about 0.1 ohm. Don't have an ohm reader, just going off of a Zmax. Gonna try dual coil braided kanthal and then two regular wraps for a quad coil with basic silica wick. Should I try other types of wick and wire? What'll get dragon level clouds?

 

[darkzero]

Right now I'm running a triple coil on my Nimbus x K100 set up. Two coils are wrapped with regular 28ga kanthal, the third coil is running braided 28ga kanthal, I'm at about 0.1 ohm. Don't have an ohm reader, just going off of a Zmax. Gonna try dual coil braided kanthal and then two regular wraps for a quad coil with basic silica wick. Should I try other types of wick and wire? What'll get dragon level clouds?

I really do hope you meant 1 ohm & not trying to actually get 0.1 ohm.

Judging but what you used I'm sure you meant 1 ohm.

Silica probably won't keep up well for producing massive clouds, I tried Ekowool & it doesn't wick nearly as good as cotton. To get big clouds you'll be going through a lot of juice, be sure to keep the wicks saturated. You need big air holes for big clouds. What size are your air holes now?

 

[dr g]

triple 28ga coils at 1 ohm? pretty sure he meant 0.1 ohm.

 

[darkzero]

Not sure why I missed the part about triple coils. So he doesn't have a MM and is using a zmax to check resistance which is showing .1 ohm? Didn't even know it was possible that a VV device would read that low. If he is running them at .1 ohm, I really hope he knows what he's doing.

 

[Ec!g]

. 1 ohm on 3 wicks?
No DMM?
Going for four wicks?

I really hope I don't hear about you on the news.

 

[dr g]

Not sure why I missed the part about triple coils. So he doesn't have a MM and is using a zmax to check resistance which is showing .1 ohm? Didn't even know it was possible that a VV device would read that low. If he is running them at .1 ohm, I really hope he knows what he's doing.

Oddly enough the vamo reads subohm coils even though it can't fire them. I would not run anywhere near .1 ohm either though.

 

[Fatboy 589]

Haha I know what I'm doing. No issues at all with any of the builds I've been doing. My RSST is at 0.7-0.6ish. I'm running 0.3 right now on the Nimbus.
Vamos and Zmaxes will read superbly low, it's kinda cool xD

The airholes I've got are one on each size, pretty decent sized holes. They're running well for a quad coil with 28 gauge kanthal, running about 0.3. It's working fine, no explosions, protected batteries.
I've got Ekowool on the way with some braided kanthal wire as well as cotton to use for wicks.

 

[classwife]

Moved to Rebuildable Atomizer Systems from the Modding Forum - Atomizer Mods

 

[Jazzi Mike]

Are you trying to melt your face off?

 

[Thrasher]

even at same Resistance running different gauges of wire result in uneven heating making the coil less then optimal.

HAHA im glad you know what your doing - with an 18amp discharge you place a lot of faith in an overseas battery factory, sleep well and dont worry im sure none of the bad ones got through QC.

 

[Technonut]

All it's going to take is a few incidents to occur involving folks getting injured with this sub-ohm craze making national attention... Public opinion will be totally against vaping, and the FDA will have a field day with strict regulation. Hell, the first thing I learned here at ECF was to invest in a multimeter almost 3 years ago.. That was when we only had small attys to use.

Disclaimers or not, ECF should not support this type of discussion.. I'm seriously thinking of not renewing as a supporting member...

 

[eratikmind]

Right now I'm running a triple coil on my Nimbus x K100 set up. Two coils are wrapped with regular 28ga kanthal, the third coil is running braided 28ga kanthal, I'm at about 0.1 ohm. Don't have an ohm reader, just going off of a Zmax. Gonna try dual coil braided kanthal and then two regular wraps for a quad coil with basic silica wick. Should I try other types of wick and wire? What'll get dragon level clouds?

I trust that your health care policy is paid up. Thus, you will not be a potential burden for family and friends.

- Andy

 

[Discord]

Going ultra sub ohm isn't required for massive clouds. Surface area, good wicking and balanced airflow also have a major impact. Check out the micro-coil threads. I've been able to get MASSIVE clouds even off of a ProTank with micro coils on a regulated device, even more on a mechanical, and the RDAs are even better, and most of these are in the 1-1.5 Ω range.

edit: I did a dual twisted microcoil on a Chimbus at 0.7 that turned me into a fog-machine. I couldn't hit it for more than 2-3 second hits.

 

[jg1986]

All it's going to take is a few incidents to occur involving folks getting injured with this sub-ohm craze making national attention... Public opinion will be totally against vaping, and the FDA will have a field day with strict regulation. Hell, the first thing I learned here at ECF was to invest in a multimeter almost 3 years ago.. That was when we only had small attys to use.

Disclaimers or not, ECF should not support this type of discussion.. I'm seriously thinking of not renewing as a supporting member...

There will always be people that want to push the limits of whatever they are doing. It's inevitable. I would never run a triple coil, let alone, a triple coil with 2 different resistance wires, but there are people who are going to do what they want to do. I personally vape a El Kapitian mod with an dual coiled igo-w wrapped with 28 gauge kanthal running at .3 ohms. I don't use cheap batteries, and I rotate batteries regularly. As long as the ones who are pushing the limits are educated, there should be no reason for people bashing what others do. There are many examples of how people like to push the limits to extremes.

 

[FarmYard]

 

[Fatboy 589]

Just so we're all clear, I'm gonna clear the air here real quick.

I did realize a few errors with what I was doing. I have extra vent holes drilled into the K100. Safety fuses ARE being used with these mods and low ohms. Protected batteries with high amp output are ONLY being used while doing these mods. I SHOULD have specified with what I was doing. Most wraps I've been doing recently are dual coil set ups on a Nimbus with 30 or 28 gauge wire, oxidized kanthal, total safety measures being taken. Most wraps as far as ohms go, are down to about low .4's and medium .5's.

We are constantly seeking out how to make this safer and push EVERYONE to vape safely!!!

 

[minimalsaint]

You never mentioned the pg/vg of the liquid you are using. It seems to be the one thing lacking in all of these videos people seem to want to emulate. There is a lot more to vapor than just the build.

 

[Jeremy Evans]

You never mentioned the pg/vg of the liquid you are using. It seems to be the one thing lacking in all of these videos people seem to want to emulate. There is a lot more to vapor than just the build.

Not too mention no one ever does a deep inhale just a quick blow out of all the vapor, I tried my buddies cloud producer it was a Poldi with a Nimbus with like 3mm holes, it was surprisingly not as airy as I thought and direct lung hits toned down the vapor a little but not a lot, he was also using a 50/50, I vape all VG and blow clouds like his with far less strain on the battery

 

[Kemosabe]

Going ultra sub ohm isn't required for massive clouds. Surface area, good wicking and balanced airflow also have a major impact. Check out the micro-coil threads. I've been able to get MASSIVE clouds even off of a ProTank with micro coils on a regulated device, even more on a mechanical, and the RDAs are even better, and most of these are in the 1-1.5 Ω range.

edit: I did a dual twisted microcoil on a Chimbus at 0.7 that turned me into a fog-machine. I couldn't hit it for more than 2-3 second hits.

^this.


OP,

sure, we get it that you want massive clouds. and thats fine. you just need to find a better way.

you could get across the country with a rocket strapped to your back and youd get there pretty quick. but you could also take a jet, get there just as quickly and not blow yourself up in the process.

please be smart. if you screw up, it makes everyone look bad. dont make us look bad. please.

 

[Fatboy 589]

At a certain point, too long of a draw, the vape just disappates in your lungs. Best set up is oxidized kanthal, 28ga, silica wick, 3/4 wrap dual coils on a Nimbus. Ungodly amounts of vape, straight up fog machine. Typically around 0.46 ohms.

We are being excessively safe. We (my coworkers, along with friends and I) have talked to several electricians about the SAFEST way to do this. We have had zero incidents since we started almost seven months ago with low ohms. You guys aren't cloud chasers, that's cool. The forum isn't for me, there's a different culture within local shops (being 35+ in my area) than on the forums. I have no intention of anyone looking bad, but for now, I'll keep myself off of here. Too much attitude and negativity.

At least that's how I'm perceiving it. Thanks for everything!