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B2L

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yep i think i really really NEED one of theses in my life, lol
how long is the waiting list :thumbs:

Thanks penguines :)
this place here is so welcoming and every one is soo nice, i think i will be here to see a lot of theses custom classic's being made, lol..
but i realy cant wait to watch mine being built ;)

You have chosen wisely :thumb:
 
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The wait is only a week or so, at the moment. :)

Take your time though. No rush. ;)

:w00t: now im excited :banana:
and its bed time, how am i supposed too sleep now, ;)
its 1:30am and all il be thinking about is a new squonker lol

cc if you could send me pm with the options that would be cool..
and good nite every one :)
 

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I was about to buy a few new batteries, now all this battery talk back there has got me questioning which one. Was thinking the HG2 3000 mah. Now thinking 30q, or VTC 5a or 6. Maybe they are overkill, as I am usually above .5 ohms. Illum is trustworthy, yes?


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I was about to buy a few new batteries, now all this battery talk back there has got me questioning which one. Was thinking the HG2 3000 mah. Now thinking 30q, or VTC 5a or 6. Maybe they are overkill, as I am usually above .5 ohms. Illum is trustworthy, yes?


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Illum is a good vendor. I just bought 8 vtc5a's and 8 vtc6's from them.
They include a free dual battery case when you buy pairs.
For multi-battery storage these work great.

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yes defo need a squonker now after looking at these ones, i love that you post pictures of them being made, hopefully i will see mine being made one day on here :)

Welcome :) Yep...Corey takes you through the whole process. It's really pretty cool!!

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Oh yea...the otters are a critical part of the process;)

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I think he just considers the vtc5a the best all around battery.

Such a thing simply doesn't exist.

Notice he keeps referring to voltage sag?

That battery is about useless under 10 to 15 amps in comparison to a 30Q or vtc6.

Context. ;)

It keeps coming back to power.

The fact that it gives the highest voltage under load and still maintains 2500mAh is a serious breakthrough.

The fact that most people who need to rely on his knowledge and testing fall into that higher power category makes that even more significant and brings a new "best battery" to a majority of vapers these days.

The fact that Mooch is a higher power mech user and a battery geek gives him twice the added reason to be excited.

Though, if you look at the comparison graphs, you'll see (IIRC) the vtc6 out performs the 5A after well under a minute of vaping time on a 20 amp graph.

So the 5A starts off strong.

And should be the new favorite in cloud comps soon.

And offers a few amps more continuous power and better voltage sag in the 2500mAh arena.

But for a regulated vaper, voltage sag is nearly irrelevant.

The hb series stays cooler across the board thus still offers higher performance capabilities, albeit at a loss in capacity.

Though, if you need that much power, you're carrying extra batteries no matter what they are.

I agree. As Mooch points out, it's always a compromise between amp rating & battery life, you just have to find the right battery for your vaping style/build.

Based on the OP's stated requirements, the vtc6 (or 30Q) is a better option. Mooch also points out in both videos that his opinion of the HB2 has changed since his initial testing. He suspects that the current HB2's in the market may be lower bin (grade) versions. Personally I own both vtc5a & vtc6.

It's not necessarily his opinion on the hb2 as much as its lower bin batteries being offered for sale to the general public.

Either way, this is why I asked the questions I did.

Personally, at 1 ohm, the 30Q wouldn't even be on my radar at this point.

With the vtc6 being reported as an 18 amp battery from Mooch, that would give more head way if I were to want to experiment with higher power vaping.

But if I knew I wasn't interested....

I'd go with the Panasonic all day long.

You get a little more capacity on probably the safest inr/imr on the market.

It's probably impossible to make the panny go into thermal runaway due to over current.

There used to be a YouTube video of someone testing one. He dead shorted it, I think with a c-clamp, to fully discharged and it charged right back up.

The internal resistance climbs so high during a dead short on them that the current isn't capable of rising high enough to cause catastrophic heat.

I have a lot of batteries myself.

I made a habit of testing theories, rebuilding and retesting on 200 amp nominally rated, series connected lithium packs for years before I came here.

I kept in private communication with several people equivalent to Mooch while doing so.

Before there was a "battery professional" on this site.

(And I don't mean ones that write articles, compile information and hand out links of regurgitated, incorrect Internet myths and vendor hype and won't let go of their misconceptions without a fight.)
I was about to buy a few new batteries, now all this battery talk back there has got me questioning which one. Was thinking the HG2 3000 mah. Now thinking 30q, or VTC 5a or 6. Maybe they are overkill, as I am usually above .5 ohms. Illum is trustworthy, yes?


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I would go with the 6 right now.

But interest would probably find me adding a couple 5A out of curiosity.

The capacity to run a higher output longer on the 6 @ 15-18A+ coupled with the lower likelihood of getting a fake with the new battery... @ .5A... easy choice IMO.

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Something I don't hear talked about much is the voltage curve. With Mechanicals we don't use anywhere near the total Mah of a battery because the voltage drops below a certain level to the point we feel we need to put a fresh battery in. How long the battery will hold above this level is roughly comparable with differences in Mah differences, but if they are close the lower Mah battery might actually give a longer vape depending on vaping styles, mod voltage drop, and coil ohms. Even the constant load curves can occasionally be deceiving since we don't vape that way. If 2 or 3 batteries are at the top of the list for you I would suggest getting 1 of each and see how many ml average you get out of each before buying in quantity. Of course safety is the first and foremost concern so check Mooches reviews because there are a lot of way overrated batteries out there.
This is why I love that a couple people do pulse curves.

If you can overlay them...

Or just record reference points using time and loaded voltage with the graphs representing similar current that you'll be using...

Down to a resting voltage where you normally charge your batteries.

Then you can extrapolate whether there's a clear winner for a longer vape time at your sweet spot.

If it's not clear, I definitely agree.

Buy a couple that look to perform best closest to your vaping style and test them.

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hi guys
and thanks for the pm cory :)
now all i need todo is decide what metal i like the most :) guess i best start looking at all the pictures ;)

Is weight a factor for you? That might help you narrow down the choices.
 
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