big difference between Evod Bottom coil clearomiser vs Provari with pro tank or equivalent?

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Hi guys,

finding my feet at the moment.

I have just bought an Evod starter kit and looking at other options. I feel like im getting a good amount of vapour and prefer bottom coils to the long wick ones (sorry not sure of the name of these)

I am looking at other options as well. Would I notice a huge difference between my current setup and a Provari and bigger tank.

I don't think I want to go down the cartomiser route as they seem annoying to fill and I also have aloads of spare 1.8ohm atomoisers for the evod (I am guessing I could use these with a protank?)

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Duncan
 

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personally i love the pro tanks. i started with an evod kit also and looked at the pro varis with the big tanks afterwards. i just did not have the money.

Right now i use an iTaste VV v3 with a pro tank 2 and mini PT 2. i notice a significant difference in vape. but it also depends on your fluid. what pg/vg ratio is it?
 

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Hi guys,

finding my feet at the moment.

I have just bought an Evod starter kit and looking at other options. I feel like im getting a good amount of vapour and prefer bottom coils to the long wick ones (sorry not sure of the name of these)

I am looking at other options as well. Would I notice a huge difference between my current setup and a Provari and bigger tank.

I don't think I want to go down the cartomiser route as they seem annoying to fill and I also have aloads of spare 1.8ohm atomoisers for the evod (I am guessing I could use these with a protank?)

Thanks

Duncan

Hello,
I personally haven't tried the evod or its tanks, but do own provari's and use a protank on them. All I can speak to is that I have had my provari's for almost 3 years and still going strong. Have kept it clean and no problems with them. So, depends on what it is you are looking for in the form of longevity and consistency. The high price for the provari is well worth it. However, it is just a bit heavier(orig full model) than most. I don't have the new models that are now being sold on their site. They have great customer service and all parts are made in America.
Hope this helps a bit. Oh, and if you try a protankII or mini II the heads you have for the evod will work.

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Hi Duncsharp and welcome to ECF!

No, your eVods are eGo-threaded and can't be used on a 510 threaded ProVari without an adapter, and those 510>eGo adapter are really hit or miss and they tend to get stuck in batteries. It can be done, but it's not optimal. But you can use eVod coils in ProTanks, you're correct.

Those other clearomizers with long wicks are top coil or dual-coil clearomizers like the CE4, Vision ViVi Nova and iClear.

If you like the bottom coil heads like the Kanger BCC (T3S and mini Protank are similar to eVod), I suggest you get a variable voltage eGo-class battery like an eGo-C Twist, Vision Spinner or the much advanced Innokin iTaste vv V3. They are great batteries and will work beautifully with your eVods.

You can always get a ProVari later and try it with larger tanks. You're going to love it! :D
 
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Hi Duncsharp and welcome to ECF!

No, your eVods are eGo-threaded and can't be used on a 510 threaded ProVari without an adapter, and those 510>eGo adapter are really hit or miss and they tend to get stuck in batteries. It can be done, but it's not optimal.

Those other clearomizers with long wicks are top coil or dual-coil clearomizers like the CE4, Vision ViVi Nova and iClear.

If you like the bottom coil heads like the Kanger BCC (T3S and mini Protank are similar to eVod), I suggest you get a variable voltage eGo-class battery like an eGo-C Twist, Vision Spinner or the much advanced Innokin iTaste vv V3. They are great batteries and will work beautifully with your eVods.

You can always get a ProVari later and try it with larger tanks. You're going to love it! :D
hmm, I think he was referring only to using the evod heads not the tank itself. Just to be clear, here is a description from discount vapers referring to them.

Kanger ProTank and eVod are now the same coil. There is no longer any point in carrying different boxes for the evod and Protank coils, they are now the same item. For the time being we will be sending out the specific marked box for your order "ProTank" marked black box for Protank coils and "eVod" marked white boxes for evod coils BUT they are the same coil and may (if we run out of one) send you the other box, again, they are the same exact item, you can confirm this directly with Kanger, there is no diference between the coils.

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hmm, I think he was referring only to using the evod heads not the tank itself. Just to be clear, here is a description from discount vapers referring to them.

Kanger ProTank and eVod are now the same coil. There is no longer any point in carrying different boxes for the evod and Protank coils, they are now the same item. For the time being we will be sending out the specific marked box for your order "ProTank" marked black box for Protank coils and "eVod" marked white boxes for evod coils BUT they are the same coil and may (if we run out of one) send you the other box, again, they are the same exact item, you can confirm this directly with Kanger, there is no diference between the coils.

:)

Thanks Sugar--I noticed my error and I added a sentence to my post above!
 
personally i love the pro tanks. i started with an evod kit also and looked at the pro varis with the big tanks afterwards. i just did not have the money.

Right now i use an iTaste VV v3 with a pro tank 2 and mini PT 2. i notice a significant difference in vape. but it also depends on your fluid. what pg/vg ratio is it?

im not sure exactly how to find this out. I have had a look at their fuel page - here is the link - Liquid information page for FUEL refill liquids

I am using 12mg nicotine.

I am going with fruit flavors rather than tobacco imitation.
 

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im not sure exactly how to find this out. I have had a look at their fuel page - here is the link - Liquid information page for FUEL refill liquids

I am using 12mg nicotine.

I am going with fruit flavors rather than tobacco imitation.
Me too. I looked their site and you are right. They don't list what the ratio is. As long as you are happy and aren't having any burning issues and/or health problems, it should be good to go. (some have an allergy to pg)

Maybe if you try a protank II mini on your evod, it will give you a little variety while exposing you to different equipment. Just a thought.


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im not sure exactly how to find this out. I have had a look at their fuel page - here is the link - Liquid information page for FUEL refill liquids

I am using 12mg nicotine.

I am going with fruit flavors rather than tobacco imitation.

No ratio--you could email them and ask, but they look like they are standard 80PG/20VG ejuices. Or similar. They look clear and clean and should work fine in most heads.
 

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While the Provari is a fine device, they haven't kept up with the changes in the industry well. They do benefit from a cult following. A Provari has three issues that they have chosen not to address. First and worse, they use pulse width modulation for voltage control. There is mounting evidence that this is a poor way to manage voltage level. Here is how it works...

Let's say that you want to dim the lights in your room. If you use pulse width modulation, you quickly switch the lights on and off repeatedly, leaving them on long enough so that the 'average' brightness is around what you were looking for while they are flickering.

With straight DC output, it is like a dimmer switch, you simply cut down the voltage until the lights are at the brightness that you want. Making them run consistently at the voltage you set with the switch.

Using a coil with pulse width modulation makes it heat up and cool down quickly. If you get a cheaper device (anything with a max in it, Zmax, for example) you can actually hear this. It is called the 'rattlesnake' sound. Provari does use a faster modulation than the 'max' chips do, 100Hz rather than 33Hz, three times faster, but it is the same method. There is talk that some of the issues that people have with atomizers is due to the effects of pulse width modulation.

Second, the Provari does not let you adjust by power (watts), only volts. Many will tell you that it really makes no difference, since you have to adjust both to the 'sweet spot' of the atomizer or juice you are using. I disagree. I use cartotanks almost exclusively and they have different resistances. I use am iTaste MVP 2 and an eVic (straight DC output devices, not PWM) and I run all my atomizers and juices at 8 watts. No matter which cartotank I run, they always get the 8 watts that I set them to. The devices adjust the voltage to suit the different atomizer automatically. No fiddling. Consistent vape.

Finally, no ego threading without an adapter. Really? Given the huge number of devices that use ego threading, you tell customers "buy an adapter". For what you charge? <shakes head slowly>

Reality is that the Provari has a long, cherished reputation. It is a perfectly good device. But for far less money, there are other, better devices out there. Oh, I forgot, you will hear "well, you haven't tried one...". Yeah, I have. They are fine, U.S.A. made, reliable. Did you keep your old 'brick' cell phone? No? Why not? Reliable, does the job. Oh? You wanted the newer features. Yeah, me too.

Just my two cents. Hope this helps. Good luck and have fun!
 

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Thanks,

what other products would you recommend as an alternative to the provari?

Personally, I use and love the Innokin iTaste MVP version 2 and the Joyetech eVic 1.4 firmware. The Innokin iTaste VTR also looks very interesting and I may be picking one up. I am finding that I really like the 'box style' mod. Good luck and have fun!
 
im not sure exactly how to find this out. I have had a look at their fuel page - here is the link - Liquid information page for FUEL refill liquids

I am using 12mg nicotine.

I am going with fruit flavors rather than tobacco imitation.

I found out the ratio for the E-juice that ive been using:

E-liquid closest to the fruit, rich and balanced
VG35% PG55% water distillé10%
Flavor: food quality

does this point towards one type of atomiser or not?
 

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I found out the ratio for the E-juice that ive been using:

E-liquid closest to the fruit, rich and balanced
VG35% PG55% water distillé10%
Flavor: food quality

does this point towards one type of atomiser or not?

Those should work well with any type of atomizer. I use 70/30 PG/VG and it's a great ratio, IMO.
 
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