Why does it turn bitter if you go too far with the flavorings? Are there any flavorings that this won't happen with? I've only tried PA and VR flavorings.
Thanks,
Lori
Thanks,
Lori
Bitterness
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I guess I am wondering if all the flavorings have that bitterness to them. I've read where some folks say they use 20% and 30% flavorings in their juices. I can't seem to go above 15% without it getting bitter. How do they get to 30% and have it be vapable?
I haven't tried Loranns or FA yet. Maybe those you can be heavy handed with.
Lori
I haven't tried Loranns or FA yet. Maybe those you can be heavy handed with.
Lori
I haven't figured out the percentage of flavoring that I use. I use 1 to 2 drops of flavoring to 1 ml of juice. Most of the time this is plenty strong enough for me. I don't know what percent that would be and don't really care. It works for me, but that doesn't mean it would be what someone else would like. I don't have to let it set to "steep" it is ready as soon as I mix it. I have noticed that if I have some sitting around for a while the flavor gets weaker and I have to add more.
Everyone has different taste levels. I don't notice any bitterness until I start going higher than 22% with my flavors. I like strong, sweet flavors and most of my mixes are at least 20%. Some people don't like their flavor that strong. You also have to consider that when someone is referring to 20% flavor that is the total percentage of flavor. There may be two or more different flavors in the mix for a total of 20% flavor. Mixing DIY is just like cooking. You have to experiment and tweak recipes until they taste good for you. If 15% flavor works for you, then change the recipe to reflect that.
There are a number of factors here, not the least of which is that each flavor is different.
I have recipes that range from 5.7% to 35% total flavor volume, but all have a fullness of taste. It is real easy to go too far with the 5.7 one compared to the 35 one, but the reason I consider them recipes is that I found the range that worked and then mix at the high-end-of-the-middle of that range.
That range is more dependent on my taste than anything else. Otherwise I'd be mixing to hit a percentage regardless of taste, which defeats the entire purpose of why I mix.
So, why do you go "too far"? Are the flavors not strong enough to you and you overshoot the range before the taste is strong enough? Have you tried the same mix over a period of time? (Some mixes change taste intensity over time).
My rule is to experiment until I'm close then cap that puppy and try it a few days down the road. I have found that if I keep adding flavor after it is close that it has a greater chance of being too much. Letting it sit means a better chance.
I have recipes that range from 5.7% to 35% total flavor volume, but all have a fullness of taste. It is real easy to go too far with the 5.7 one compared to the 35 one, but the reason I consider them recipes is that I found the range that worked and then mix at the high-end-of-the-middle of that range.
That range is more dependent on my taste than anything else. Otherwise I'd be mixing to hit a percentage regardless of taste, which defeats the entire purpose of why I mix.
So, why do you go "too far"? Are the flavors not strong enough to you and you overshoot the range before the taste is strong enough? Have you tried the same mix over a period of time? (Some mixes change taste intensity over time).
My rule is to experiment until I'm close then cap that puppy and try it a few days down the road. I have found that if I keep adding flavor after it is close that it has a greater chance of being too much. Letting it sit means a better chance.
A lot of foods have a minor underlying bitter flavor component that you just don't detect. For example, chocolate in relatively pure form (like baking chocolate) is very bitter, but milk chocolate isn't. I don't like bitterness but I like dark chocolate, so I just have to deal with it. Flavorings probably work the same way when there is a component that is slightly bitter. If you want your flavor that strong but don't like bitterness, you could try adding EM or Magic Mask.
It likely depends more on which flavors you're using rather than the brands.
It likely depends more on which flavors you're using rather than the brands.
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