Bloog cartomizer troubles..need help!

[MsOceanCity]

Got my first pack of bloog maxx fusion blank cartos a couple days ago. They are internally different from the ones I'm used to (V4L boges), as they appear to have a horizontal coil at the bottom, as opposed to a vertical wire going straight up the middle. With the boges, I know I have to make sure the central tube is clear, otherwise the draw is tight. This was never a problem for me, as a toothpick or paperclip would easily fix any issues. Now, for the Bloog, since the coil is right at the bottom, it almost completely obscures the hole. No problems on first and second fillings, as I could still see a tiny bit of daylight if I held the carto up to my eye. Third time I refilled (and I do that with carto off the batt and only drop juice down the sides)the hole was completely blocked and I couldn't get any draw. I carefully stuck a fine needle up from the battery end and it came out with all kinds of gunk on it, like it was really old. When I could see a tiny part of the hole, I blew from the mouthpiece end and a whole bunch of black specs(like pepper)came out I am able to draw on it now, but the taste is way off. Can someone help me? I'm hoping, since it's my first time with this design carto, that I made some kind of newbie mistake, when attempting to clear the center tube

 

[MahBohMan]

I'd boil it then rinse and blow it out blow it out blow it out then do it again without the boil

 

[MsOceanCity]

Have gone through the whole 5 pack of blanks now and am very disappointed with results. Apart from the first carto, the rest had either little flavor or soon tasted burnt, at first filling (a variety of juices were tested but all were 80/20 PG/VG). Even though they were practically brand new, I tried cleaning 3 of them and, while they looked good and still fired, I was unable to taste the juice. Not even a hint. Just nothing, like vaping air. It's a shame because I like the design of the softcap, they vape easily and produce tons of vapor. I suppose it's very possible that I just got a bad pack, but I don't have the confidence in these cartos to buy more. I've wasted too much juice. FYI, I was using V4L 3.7V Vaporking and Cig Easy Elegant Easy XXL batts. Hopefully, others are having better luck!

 

[MsOceanCity]

I'd boil it then rinse and blow it out blow it out blow it out then do it again without the boil

When I cleaned, I first rinsed in hot water and blew out all old juice. Then I did two 15 min boils, rinsing with fresh water inbetween. Blew and spun out remaining water and let dry for 48 hrs. Is there some kind of chemical in the filler material that binds to the juice that allows the flavor to come through or something because whatever it is goes missing after cleaning and no matter what kind or flavor of juice I put in, I can't taste it.

 

[sherid]

I got my Bloog kit today and hoped with a different flavor and batch that the cartomizers would not burn right away as they did with the first battery and pack of cartomizer. That is not the case. I fired up the first one and hoped for greatness; however, within 10 drags, there was that burned taste again. I LOVE the battery and hate the cartomizers. I do not want to fill my own blanks. I purposefully buy pre-filled and top off with my own juice, but I should not have to do that ten minutes after putting on a fresh cartomizer. Someone at Bloog needs to fix this because the battery is great, but it is only half of the equation.

 

[MsOceanCity]

By any chance, was the juice one of the darker ones?

 

[jayvap33]

I got my Bloog kit today and hoped with a different flavor and batch that the cartomizers would not burn right away as they did with the first battery and pack of cartomizer. That is not the case. I fired up the first one and hoped for greatness; however, within 10 drags, there was that burned taste again. I LOVE the battery and hate the cartomizers. I do not want to fill my own blanks. I purposefully buy pre-filled and top off with my own juice, but I should not have to do that ten minutes after putting on a fresh cartomizer. Someone at Bloog needs to fix this because the battery is great, but it is only half of the equation.

just got 25 MaxxFusion Blank cartomizers today. Filled one. Was fine, Honey Hookah 12mg organic VG juice from Velvet Vapors. After a few puffs the taste went bad, burnt-like, and stunk up the room so bad my wife complained. She loves the vapor all the time for years now and never complains. Something is wrong here, what should I do? Is there a fix or must I return these?

 

[aubergine]

I'm disgusted with the Bloog cartos - I've been at this for a very good while and I've used a fair variety of cartomizers. Have never seen anything like this. Don't wait for the burnt taste to get worse - pull it apart and have a look at the bottom. We're not talking the delicate little browning you get with other cartos - we're talking black - black crumbly burnt up mess all the way through. This is the state of all four cartos I've used, with four different juices, after moderate use at just 3.7 V and from two different boxes just in case I had a bad batch. God knows what a PT would do to them. I'm the last person to get too het up re health issues, but I dunno what the hell I'm inhaling with these things. The last one I dissected didn't even taste burnt at all - it was just absolute nasty black toast in there. The ad should say, "Can't even taste the burn!"
These are NOT rebranded Volts - they look just the same, but I've vaped a lot of Volts, they're my go-to carto, and have had no problems at all.
Gak and beware. I don't generally run negative reviews (and have no time to hang here much any more) but these worry me because they burn without a truly awful taste - it would be easy for a newbie to just keep going, and the plume gets denser, not weak and dribbly, when they're way past done. And that can't be good. So bumping this.

 

[pmos69]

I'm disgusted with the Bloog cartos - I've been at this for a very good while and I've used a fair variety of cartomizers. Have never seen anything like this. Don't wait for the burnt taste to get worse - pull it apart and have a look at the bottom. We're not talking the delicate little browning you get with other cartos - we're talking black - black crumbly burnt up mess all the way through. This is the state of all four cartos I've used, with four different juices, after moderate use at just 3.7 V and from two different boxes just in case I had a bad batch. God knows what a PT would do to them. I'm the last person to get too het up re health issues, but I dunno what the hell I'm inhaling with these things. The last one I dissected didn't even taste burnt at all - it was just absolute nasty black toast in there. The ad should say, "Can't even taste the burn!"
These are NOT rebranded Volts - they look just the same, but I've vaped a lot of Volts, they're my go-to carto, and have had no problems at all.
Gak and beware. I don't generally run negative reviews (and have no time to hang here much any more) but these worry me because they burn without a truly awful taste - it would be easy for a newbie to just keep going, and the plume gets denser, not weak and dribbly, when they're way past done. And that can't be good. So bumping this.

You must be doing something terribly wrong. It's almost impossible to burn any part of a Bloog carto at 3.7V as long as you don't dry burn it.
Also, calling the BMF a rebranded Volt is somewhat strange, since the Volt is a Bloog copy.

 

[TeeW]

I've been watching discussions with regard to this problem. It's my opinion at this point that the juice is the problem. I don't want to bash any juice suppliers so I will just say that as of the last month I've been using V4L wow juice (chocolate) and have been having no problems period. The other juices even higher PG have been causing the black tar like crap within 1-2 fills. As I also do not want to waste carto's I have stopped using the other suppliers.

 

[pmos69]

I've been watching discussions with regard to this problem. It's my opinion at this point that the juice is the problem. I don't want to bash any juice suppliers so I will just say that as of the last month I've been using V4L wow juice (chocolate) and have been having no problems period. The other juices even higher PG have been causing the black tar like crap within 1-2 fills. As I also do not want to waste carto's I have stopped using the other suppliers.

Yes, there's been some discussion about poor performance with some juices, even in the Bloog forum: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nce-few-backwoods-juices-has-left-me-sad.html
The intention is to find the definitive cause for that. So far it seems to point to some ingredients present in some batches.

 

[aubergine]

Can assure you it's not a juice problem. I use KBV juice, have for a long time, and have had absolutely no problems with it at 3.7 and 5 V using various cartos. ... And 'scuse me pms, but this is not rocket science; what in the world can a very experienced vaper 'do wrong' with familiar 3.7 batts and a carto? No way. These were burnt absolutely and utterly; literally crumbled between my fingers and were black-black, and left black on my fingers. Never seen anything like it, and the strangest thing was that there was very little off-taste - I took the first one apart after about an hour, because the taste was just flat and the plume was oddly dense, it just seemed wrong. (Same excellent juice that I'm vaping now, with a Volt)

BUT - that being said, I went ahead and filled up another few from the two remaining boxes, because the consensus re them not burning seems so strong. And I happen to like Leaford and think he's a mensch, and felt sad about trashing his product. So far no problem. Could those possibly have been a 'bad batch'? WTH makes a bad batch? Anyway, I did want to post a caveat as the ones from this box are actually excellent cartos so far. Keeping an eye on 'em at this point.
Also, I didn't call them rebranded Volts - someone else did in another thread. I have no idea, but was disagreeing that these were not the same beast, as Volts have performed impeccably for me - lots of 'em. At that point was very cross at the revolting mess of black ugh from Bloog.

 

[aubergine]

Just posted simultaneously with your last, pms... I can't grasp how a juice that performs well with Volts, Ikenvape cartos (2 kinds), Coolcarts and Wows would be finicky about Bloogs...

 

[pmos69]

There are several posted examples of photos of dissected Bloog cartos in the Bloog forum, including my own for cartos refilled more than 20 times with 100% VG juice.
(http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...autopsy-parts-explenation-28.html#post2823888)

There are no burn issues in any of them. That was even one of the main inovations of The Bloog MaxxFusion cartos when the were launched in Dec 2010 -> They are composed of nothing but burn resistant materials.
You can find out more info about that in some of the initial reviews, with some people even trying to burn carto components with open flames and failing.

Also, I don't know if you are aware, but you resurrected a topic inactive since January (7 months ago), right after The Bloog MaxxFusion launch. Issues reported in the thread have long been resolved, right in the early stages.

 

[sln88]

this is interesting. so you feel the new Bloog would help with the burning issues discussed here?:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...us-510-kr808-4081-etc-filler-type-cartos.html

 

[pmos69]

Most horizontal coil cartomizers would.
If you see the architecture of a Bloog carto, the coil isn't even in contact with any part of the filler or with the inner tube.
The only thing in contact with the coil is the wick.

 

[aubergine]

Several days later...

No further problems with the Bloogs. Something was way off with that batch, can't imagine what. Thought I should now emphatically state that this is not an across-the-board Bloog problem.

Volts, Bloogs, G6s - pretty much the same animal. Apologies for confusion caused, but that really was inexplicable to me, too. And quite real.