To make a long story long..... I thought I would try dripping. Sounded like a good plan. So I take the cart off my atty and drip 1...2....3 drop. put the fillerless cart back on for mouthpiece like effect and get no vapor at all. that leads to my first question. What did I do wrong while trying to drip? If I can fix that problem it will solve the other question but I will ask both anyway. I got a Boge LR carto from PIF and loved it but I need some kind of "real" mouthpiece. I was thinking maybe a drip tip. What or where would I go to find one to appropiately fit a carto? Thanks all. feeling very frustrated right now . Any help is appreciated. and for CK