Boge Cartos, what gives?

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amnesiac

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So... for 2 years I've been in good shape ordering 3ohm Boge cartos from one vendor exclusively. Early this year I started getting cartos that were off-spec, all of them were coming in a 2.4-2.5ohms, and none can hold their liquid. I used to get 4-5 days minimum on a carto. They rarely last me a day now (maybe a day and a half) without leaking juice all over the place. This has been going on since May, at least. I'm just frustrated. My first year of vaping I tried gear from so many different vendors and spent way too much time researching e-cig gear trying to find something that really worked for me. I do not want to start that process all over again. I like vaping, but it's not gonna be worth starting over.

So... leaky and off-spec. What gives? Am I the only one who's experiencing this?

I finally ordered some Boges from another vendor advertising 3.2ohms. Although these still leaked, they at least measure closer to 3ohms, which is what I want (although none were 3.2 ohms as advertised).

I'm not sure if this is a vendor issue or if all Boge's just suck now compared to what they were. They are, without a doubt, not the same.
 

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I use cartomizers most of the time and go through a lot of them. I have consistency problems with both Boge and Smoktech. As soon as one seems to be superior, I get a box with some duds. I just make sure I always have plenty on hand.

As far as not holding liquid, I have an easy fix for that. After it has been thoroughly broken in, it'll work better. For really stubborn new ones, I just drop the whole carto in a cup of rubbing alcohol for 24 hours. Then I rinse with hot water and let it dry for a day. This cleaning always improves the absorbency. I think the manufacturers treat the stuffing with something, and sometimes use too much. Alcohol gets rid of it.

I clean dirty cartos the same way - in rubbing alcohol, and using a turkey baster to blast the gunk out. Some of my best, strongest cartos are very old ones I've cleaned many times. Others are powerless duds right out of the box.

I have one VV eGo (prefer simple mini eGos). I use it with cartos that aren't to spec, and it helps with quite a few of them.
 

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Hi,

I'm getting all-Boged out and ill with Boge cartos! I usually order my cartos in bulk and I have a large stock of cartos, all Boge. Each new carto I use is awful and DANGEROUS!, filling my lungs with noxious vapours and making my chest so bad I have contracted viral bronchitis. I can't use the carto from new. A disgusting taste comes into my mouth and my lungs feel like they are exploding. I didn't realise that Boge were going downhill until I just logged on again here after a long absence from reading posts. I have been perservering with these horrid cartos for some time hoping the experiennce would change but to no avail. I'm almost sure it is the cartos as I tried to make sure the battery, vaping unit and liquid are all pukka. I'm going to chuck these cartos and lose my money, shame, but I am desperate to get some working cartos as I'm not getting my nicotine fix and I am getting withdrawals. I've been about six years analog free and I'm desperate also not to go back to them. I need suggestions for UK suppliers of the suggested cartos above ( Smoktech, Kanger, or IKenVape cartos ). Any help appreciated! Also any comments on the horrid Boge cartos?!!

Thanks,

Greg.
 

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Same trouble here, for about 4 months. I get them as well in bundles of three. Leaky, and they don't last anything like they used to do. I used to clean them by boiling, as in P Busardo's video, but that doesn't seem to work with the last packets I've got. Been looking for another brand I can try, which is annoying when you've done the leg work, settled on something you quite like, then had it go pear shaped.
 
I use cartomizers most of the time and go through a lot of them. I have consistency problems with both Boge and Smoktech. As soon as one seems to be superior, I get a box with some duds. I just make sure I always have plenty on hand.

As far as not holding liquid, I have an easy fix for that. After it has been thoroughly broken in, it'll work better. For really stubborn new ones, I just drop the whole carto in a cup of rubbing alcohol for 24 hours. Then I rinse with hot water and let it dry for a day. This cleaning always improves the absorbency. I think the manufacturers treat the stuffing with something, and sometimes use too much. Alcohol gets rid of it.

I clean dirty cartos the same way - in rubbing alcohol, and using a turkey baster to blast the gunk out. Some of my best, strongest cartos are very old ones I've cleaned many times. Others are powerless duds right out of the box.

I have one VV eGo (prefer simple mini eGos). I use it with cartos that aren't to spec, and it helps with quite a few of them.

I'll have to try that alcohol method, and I really hope it works because I just bought several packages of Boge cartos and and none of them hold ANY liquid even fresh out of the box. And I've bought Boge before and haven't had problems so I know something has changed.

Really hoping that'll help the absorbency thanks for the tip!
 

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I always kind of looked askance at cartomizers and the polyfill and such but they ultimately transformed my vaping into a more sustainable / hassle-free process once a friend of mine gave me a freebie to check out. Years later, tl;dr version of below, I have a bunch of new Boge poly cartomizers, dual coil mega cartomizers, etc, all in the packaging purchased years ago, and I got back into vaping because of the gloriousness of modern tank technology. And I'm behind the curve, having only tried:

Kanger ProTank II Mini, Kanger TS3, Kanger EVOD (no luck with the last one, working on airflow issues but the others are too good to make it worth my while during the honeymoon period).

I also use some CE4 clearos for my non-top-shelf juices but the authentic ProTank II Mini and TS3s will keep me away from poly cartomizers as long as they exist.

On to the poly cartomizer saga...

I never had any trouble getting at least 20 drops / ~1ml into one and I usually either ran 2.0ohm cartos at 3.7-4.0V or 3.0-3.2 at 5V.

For the guy who mentioned bronchitis, I ultimately settled into using my ProVari to enjoy 2.0 and 3.0ohm cartomizers most of the time for a solid year. I noticed that it did tend to drag my colds on longer than usual, being a recent father who would get sick from everything my toddler got, it seemed to prolong the post-cold lung crud and ultimately bronchitis that I usually developed. But it was clean enough compared to smoking for me to be somewhat compelled to use it as much as I could get away with every day, giving me a nice cumulative irritation.

Before I quit smoking, I first noticed that I went from getting a noticeable cold every couple years to getting really crappy colds throughout the year, in part due to the kid and in part probably just due to being older and not taking great care of myself. I can't fairly blame the increased frequency of colds on my kid and age without also blaming the duration and incidence of bronchitis, but suffice it to say I was drawn to the ProVari + Boge cartomizer but it definitely seemed to be rough the next day and increasingly would be rough for the first drag of the day, and I'd be like "OK I drank enough water and am hydrated let's try this...GACK." I had plenty of variety to choose from and it wasn't anything like a bad box or bad batch; just a progressive increase in discomfort and irritation with plenty-good taste.

To make a long story short I got progressively more and more irritated by cartomizers and gravitated more to full-VG juices that didn't work great in cartomizers. I'd cut them with other juices to make it work but they still irritated me plenty. So it's plenty possible that I have a PG sensitivity / allergy and direct dripping didn't make it apparent because it was fiddly and time consuming and not as mindlessly easy to take in tons of hits as with cartomizers. This is what fair-mindedness should look like, but I sure want to blame the Boges!

I found myself dripping Alien Visions juice on low resistance atomizers on an old box mods instead of my ProVari, because it seemed to gripe (with AW IMR batts) no matter what voltage I used.

I didn't like direct dripping all of the time; I do it but I want more convenience at work and such.

Back then the entry level clearomizers were just starting to get modded into "MAP tanks" and whatnot and a friend of mine was really into carto-tanks but I wasn't super impressed. I tried various mega / dual-coil cartomizers and didn't like 'em. I tried early first-generation clearomizers and liked them at first and then they fell apart constantly and were wildly inconsistent and just seemed like a bad idea not ready for prime time.

At the end of the day I had a ton of Boge cartos and that was my system, and I just hit a wall where it made me too irritated and wheezy and miserable to continue that system, especially during or after colds, so the ProVari started spending more time in my vape drawer. I keep most inhalation to a minimum when sick so I'd use snus or other means to keep getting nicotine and found myself more and more sensitive to the point where I could barely stand a few drags ever, unless I'd just taken a shower or was drunk and willing to feel it the next day.

Long story short, I stuck with snus almost exclusively for 18 months or so and then bought a crappy VUSE kit just to see how "cig-a-likes" had come along. First of all, too big and clunky to really even be a "cig-a-like" but I liked it for awhile and was being strangely ambivalent about the stockpile of stuff I already had, preferring to slum it with the VUSE until its cartomizers also started to make me increasingly sensitive and irritated when vaping. It took about 2 months for that to happen and then I finally started exploring my old stuff and picking up some new Ego twist batteries due to losing my ProVari in a move (!!!).

But here's the "let's be honest" part: I'm a lifelong MMJ user and I mostly smoke; when I vaporize it it tends to irritate me more than smoking, but I'm trying to phase that out. So you have that confounding factor in my whole story, and as your friendly local doctor will tell you, everyone has these elaborate difficult experiences in life but won't always fill you in on the details it takes to provide a comprehensive answer.

Long story short, MMJ can co-exist with me using those Kanger tanks and all-VG juice, and does not co-exist with poly cartomizers or higher PG juices, though I haven't done enough double-blind experiments to say the latter with full confidence, teasing apart juice vs. PG vs. VG vs. atomizing apparatus :)

Extra tidbit of information; I bought a $35 current gen Blu starter kit because I bought one early on and always had some sentimental appreciation for it despite it sucking. Even back then with the crappy cartridges I liked using them in a few settings like going out for dinner with family and I lost both batteries in a running-through-a-park-like-a-child-for-no-reason incident so they left me in honor, in legendary "I miss them" status before they could die 2 weeks after buying them. (Note: the new batts are more than two weeks old and doing fine, I'm just saying the first Blu set didn't get a chance to disappoint me and die without honor, especially because a the time they had some crazy cartridge deal so I just kept opening new ones after the 10 drags of decent vapor before "all gone" without fiddling too much and even back then it was supplemental to other gear).

Circle back to now, I know quite a bit about vaping, but not enough about the importance of not losing a ProVari I painstakingly hunted and sniped for in the classifieds years ago...and I bought yet another Blu starter kit! ... is wrong with me? I don't know but it's not terrible, and I found myself doing the same thing tonight, using it when going out with the family, first doing some sledding in the snow at a hill nearby, with the PCC nestled away safely in my coat. Why bring up the Blu? I dunno, but I like their cartomizers and would like to learn more about them. They don't hold up to repeated chain drags like tanks, at all, but they seem a lot better and smoother than the Boges I still have.

In my experience if you're used to Boge cartomizers you'll be blown away by the chain dragging capability of a good tank even if you don't really like chain dragging. I don't do it for very long but I like the "buffering" or heat absorption that kicks in really fast (at least at 2.4 ohm) so that you never had a burned crappy hit because you broke your normal "cadence" and took 3 puffs too fast.
 
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amnesiac

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Just thought I'd follow up with all of you...thanks for the replies. I did order some smoktechs and had better luck with them vs. the Boges, at least with regard to how long they last; but the flavor isn't as good as the Boge's used to be.

So....I had a chance to try a rebuildable atomizer tank last week, the Sophia By Leo, and I must say it was amazing. No leaks, wonderful flavor, and good vapor production. Mine will be here on Monday and I'm hoping to be done with cartos forever.
 

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I tried the smoktech and I had a similar problem out of 5 only 2 held their liquid and only lasted a day or two guess you get what you pay for i was buying the carts from Johnson Creek but they are expensive . But on the other hand they all worked and lasted me a week or so a piece so in the long run guess it evens out or even saves me money..hmm?
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Boge has been steadily declining in quality and consistency for a while now. Switch to Smoktech, Kanger, or even IKenVape cartos and save yourself the aggravation.
 

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I have been using boge cartos in a J-tank for over 2 years now, I punch them with a little hand punch and fill them up in a specific method i worked on for the last 2 years, I have had some crappy ones that even when I saturate them completely and fire them up at a low voltage at fist they still instantly spit out a burnt flavor, but for the most part I have had good luck with them I buy them in the 50 pack from vaporbeast.
 
Well in my limited few months experiance with carto tanks here is my experiance.

Ikenvape cartos are the best in my opinion. They have always outperformed Smoktech and boge cartos in my experinace. Only downside is sold out alot, next time they are in im buying 100+ (Another problem...)

Smoketech is too airy for me stock and seemed to mute the flavor. They work however, and not many DOA like boge below...

Boges are either tight, or airy. out of the 20 I bought about 5 where DOA. They work when they work, but when they fail they burn, and that taste is just aweful.

I never had any leak, not substancialy though. If you have a IBtanked tank they are really easy to fill also. Just put the carto in, fill tank (with carto still dry) Then you put it back into the plastic bottle it comes in, twist the cap 10-12 times for an XL carto, less for smaller cartos. I use the XLs for the 45mm tanks. Good to go ;)
 
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