Bottling Suggestion...

[vivictus]

Don't get me wrong... I am perfectly fine with the labeling on your bottles, and since I know what I order, I know what I have. However, there is the PIF forum and often people don't know the pg/vg ratios because most suppliers don't list that on the bottles, so bottles that get thrown around a couple times eventually get listed with an unknown pg/vg ratio. I don't know if it would be hard, but if it isn't a difficult thing to do I would suggest that the pg/vg ratio be listed on the bottle if possible, if only to help people out and remember. I always order the same ratio, but I am also considering trying some other ratios, and this would help me, not to mention when I start putting juice up on the PIF forum.

This has probably been brought up before, but I haven't seen it. So, just a thought.

 

[Automaton]

There is no ratio listed on Specialty flavors, as they are all 50/50 blends. So if you see no ratio, it's a 50/50 Specialty blend.

But there should be a PG/VG ratio listed on any other flavor, where you can select the ratio. It wil be listed below the name of the flavor, after the mg amount and before the ml amount and date of creation. Example: "18mg 90/10 30ml 9/12/10"

90/10 is 90% PG, 10% VG. Hope this helps!

 

[angry-amy]

this is a great idea. like you, i have no problem with just a handwritten label on something because i know what i ordered... husband on the other hand, he thinks the labeling should be more clear. maybe this is part of why the fda should be involved sometimes with the packaging, at least. know what i mean?

 

[vivictus]

There is no ratio listed on Specialty flavors, as they are all 50/50 blends. So if you see no ratio, it's a 50/50 Specialty blend.

But there should be a PG/VG ratio listed on any other flavor, where you can select the ratio. It wil be listed below the name of the flavor, after the mg amount and before the ml amount and date of creation. Example: "18mg 90/10 30ml 9/12/10"

90/10 is 90% PG, 10% VG. Hope this helps!

I've ordered juices where i choose the pg/vg ratio. For instance, I have a bottle of Pall Mall juice, but nowhere on the label does it state the pg/vg ratio on it. I know what it is, but I think it might be a good idea to list it on the label. In this case is says "24mg 30ml 10/24/10". Maybe this has changed in the last month though.

 

[vivictus]

this is a great idea. like you, i have no problem with just a handwritten label on something because i know what i ordered... husband on the other hand, he thinks the labeling should be more clear. maybe this is part of why the fda should be involved sometimes with the packaging, at least. know what i mean?

Actually, I think somewhat the opposite. I think doing something like this might help to keep the FDA away from this. the more responsible we are about all of this, the more leeway we can potentially have when it comes to how this eventually gets handled with the government. I am nearly off analogs, having 3 at most per day for more than a month. If the government comes in and decides to screw everyone over it will be devastating to all of us. Little things like this may seem possibly petty to some, but it's the little things that count, and it's the little things that lead the way to bigger and greater things. the PV is a prime example... It is a little device that paved the way for a MASS amount of people here who have quit or nearly quit analogs.

An additional note... I bring this up mainly because FSUSA obviously has their sights on testing and making sure our health is a priority. Now, I know they are a business, and profit is important, but David and family seriously seem to want to provide the facts for all of us, other companies included. So, if something small like this might make even a slight difference, it needs to be mentioned. I'm not the expert here by any means, but I just thought it was a good suggestion.

 

[ab357]

Okay I think MN, like me order primarily larger bottles.

A quick check of some 10 ml bottles show no ratio. I'll make sure it's run by David to see if they can do it with their labeling system.

 

[vivictus]

Okay I think MN, like me order primarily larger bottles.

A quick check of some 10 ml bottles show no ratio. I'll make sure it's run by David to see if they can do it with their labeling system.

I don't want to seem unappreciative or anything here. I would just like to offer suggestions that I feel would be beneficial not only to consumers but to the industry as a whole. since I have been lurking in the PIF forums lately, this has also seemed to be an issue where people post juices with an unknown pg/vg ratio to others.

 

[Sheree]

I have a 30ml bottle of Butterscotch here dated 10/14/10 with the pg/vg ratio listed.
Directly typed under the "Butterscotch" it says 12mg70/30 30ml 10/14/10
I also have a 5ml "pizza" that says 30mg 70/30 5ml. No date listed on that one, but it was early Oct. (it's still full...lol)

So I do think that the pg/vg ratio is listed when there is a choice given.

 

[ab357]

I don't want to seem unappreciative or anything here. I would just like to offer suggestions that I feel would be beneficial not only to consumers but to the industry as a whole. since I have been lurking in the PIF forums lately, this has also seemed to be an issue where people post juices with an unknown pg/vg ratio to others.

Glad I caught this before logging off. No we appreciate comments and suggestions. We don't want all the targeted attacks recently cause any customer or friend that just like hanging out here to feel uncomfortable posting.

You asked a good question that hopefully can be rectified. I'm just not in the position to know what is and is not possible.

We understand that a group of ECFers have done a great job of with their smear campaign. However don't fall into their trap. All it takes is a look around here to see the true nature and motives of FSUSA and it's JUNKIES.

This is still the same forum where you have to guard your stash from the rest of us.

 

[vivictus]

Glad I caught this before logging off. No we appreciate comments and suggestions. We don't want all the targeted attacks recently cause any customer or friend that just like hanging out here to feel uncomfortable posting.

You asked a good question that hopefully can be rectified. I'm just not in the position to know what is and is not possible.

We understand that a group of ECFers have done a great job of with their smear campaign. However don't fall into their trap. All it takes is a look around here to see the true nature and motives of FSUSA and it's JUNKIES.

This is still the same forum where you have to guard your stash from the rest of us.

I have no idea of what this "smear campaign" is that you are referring to. I've seen some ppl bad mouth, but tonight I've seen more talk of certain people I guess, since there's a sticky now about it. That is NOT what this is, so please don't think that! I love FSUSA! And, Sheree just said her 30ml bottle had the pg/vg listed. Maybe this is a new thing in the last month or something. I certainly don't want to start a big issue here. I was just trying to make a constructive suggestion.

 

[mauisun]

actually the answer to the question is, we have 4 or 5 different people making labels, some are new, some have been with us a while, some are my children at times. So every now and then something slips through that is not our typical way of labeling. Traditionally all of the "specialty" liines do not have pg/vg listed because they are all 50/50.
Hope that helps. god bless the older gold label vintage stuff

 

[DesertDweller]

More teasing about the gold label stuff. You're killing me. Must have. Want. How much longer must we be tortured?

 

[ab357]

I have no idea of what this "smear campaign" is that you are referring to. I've seen some ppl bad mouth, but tonight I've seen more talk of certain people I guess, since there's a sticky now about it. That is NOT what this is, so please don't think that! I love FSUSA! And, Sheree just said her 30ml bottle had the pg/vg listed. Maybe this is a new thing in the last month or something. I certainly don't want to start a big issue here. I was just trying to make a constructive suggestion.

I have to LOL because I apparently conveyed exactly the opposite of my intent. I wasn't referring to you, rather reassuring you and everyone else that we welcome questions, comments, and especially suggestions. Bottles of 30 ml and larger do have the pg/vg ratios. The hesitance in my response was because I don't know if the reason it's not placed on 5 and 10 ml bottles is a size issue.

I hadn't noticed it myself because I do primarily but large bottles. I am going to ask David about it and either he, I or someone else will let you know the results.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

This is still the same forum where you have to guard your stash from the rest of us.

Speak for yourself.....(oh! ....you were.)

 

[ab357]

Speak for yourself.....(oh! ....you were.)

Right, I didn't out you...

 

[mauisun]

yeah sorry we usually don't have room on the 3,5 & 10ml bottles. we try to get the ratios on there when we can but if they are specialty mixes we don't put the ratios on anyways

 

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[ThomasP]

yeah sorry we usually don't have room on the 3,5 & 10ml bottles. we try to get the ratios on there when we can but if they are specialty mixes we don't put the ratios on anyways

Oh my god. We have a right to know exactly what we are inhaling without having to take time to read our receipts. You guys have a responsibility to this industry to clearly mark the nicotine content of everything we order. I mean what if I forget that I vape 24 milligrams?

I am going to run off to all the other forums here and slander you guys until you make the changes I demand. Also you should send me free liquid. Lots of it.



sarcasm/off

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

AB....did you get cloned?

wv

 

[kts]

While I think this is a great idea, I can see how it may be hard to fit without making the labels too cramped. I normally don't worry about it because I order mostly specialties and 70/30 when I choose my own. I don't want to be rude or anything but couldn't you just write a teeny note of your own if you aren't able to remember? There's plenty of room to hand-write a few numbers on the labels. I would...and do for things when I switch them up. Just my $.02