Breaking News! California declares electronic cigarettes a health threat (Yawn!)
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What isn't considered a health threat in California?
(I'm not sure if this is quite relevant or not, but: PLEASE READ! Breaking Links to Junk Science and Other Rubbish Posts)
(I'm not sure if this is quite relevant or not, but: PLEASE READ! Breaking Links to Junk Science and Other Rubbish Posts)
Side effects include...
abdominal cramps or pain, chest pain, dental erosion, dizziness, ........, faintness, fatigue, flushing, gut blockage, headache, heartburn, increased risk of lung cancer, increased risk of Parkinson's disease, inflamed esophagus, injection site discomfort, nausea, red blood cell complications, skin tingling or irritation, slowing of endurance training, thickening of blood vessels close to the heart, urinary complications, and vomiting.
Is this from tobacco or vaping?
Trick question... These are the side effects of Vitamin C lol.
abdominal cramps or pain, chest pain, dental erosion, dizziness, ........, faintness, fatigue, flushing, gut blockage, headache, heartburn, increased risk of lung cancer, increased risk of Parkinson's disease, inflamed esophagus, injection site discomfort, nausea, red blood cell complications, skin tingling or irritation, slowing of endurance training, thickening of blood vessels close to the heart, urinary complications, and vomiting.
Is this from tobacco or vaping?
Trick question... These are the side effects of Vitamin C lol.
injection site discomfort?
I'm confused
If you suffer this side effect: YOU'RE DOING IT WAY WRONG! lol
I'm confused
If you suffer this side effect: YOU'RE DOING IT WAY WRONG! lol
They misquoted the poor guy. What he meant to say it vaping is bad for the public health industry but good for the public health.
There was one part of the article I find is used in many articles where they claim it is bad.
Yes e-cig use is up among teenagers. But the tobacco use is actually going down. They like to pat themselves on the pack for that one when it is actually e-cig that are to blame for the declined use of cigarettes among teens. Teens are likely to pick one or the others. Their picking what many of us ex-smokers have picked and that is vaping.
Yes e-cig use is up among teenagers. But the tobacco use is actually going down. They like to pat themselves on the pack for that one when it is actually e-cig that are to blame for the declined use of cigarettes among teens. Teens are likely to pick one or the others. Their picking what many of us ex-smokers have picked and that is vaping.
Ambivalent and angry. Quite frankly I could do with no public advertising, no sales to kids, better labeling even, child proofing etc... Meanwhile doling out anti-depressants to sub teens and teenagers goes on unabated. Better nicotine than Prozak (?). And no to FDA approval for devices!
Can't have E-cigs catering to the Children....................
Where will the State get Tax Loss offsets?
Just ONCE I would like ONE, just ONE government official to admit they are worried about their TAX Budget.
Yea, that will be the day.
Why not put a Sin Tax on Candy?
Every State and the Feds could balance their budgets!
Where will the State get Tax Loss offsets?
Just ONCE I would like ONE, just ONE government official to admit they are worried about their TAX Budget.
Yea, that will be the day.
Why not put a Sin Tax on Candy?
Every State and the Feds could balance their budgets!
california declares everything but organic tofu a health threat or a cause of cancer
I'm so mad right now. I now know what it's like to feel so strongly about an issue that I would stand outside somewhere with a sign and a bullhorn for weeks on end to try to be heard. I used to think people that did that were just crazy and bored.
organic tofu used in unintended way can also cause health threat.. i'm sure those politicians in cali can come up with something like.. "we have to save our kids".
I saw this on the news this morning and they didn't get five seconds into the report before stating how vapor contains carcinogens and is especially dangerous to the wait for it........THE CHILDREN what about the CHILDREN?????
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This isn't 'blah, blah, blah' to me. The story, like that of the junk formaldehyde study, gets a lot of press and people only remember the negative headlines. Surveys show that public perception of e-cig safety has declined (from 80% to 65% from memory). We know that these reports cherry pick data from debunked studies and misrepresent the results of others.
Unfortunately, the larger population doesn't know that and it's not an issue they'll research unless it applies to them somehow which leaves them believing the headlines. So John Q Public will go right along with proposals to treat vaping like smoking, ignorant of the fact that vaping isn't smoking, that there are studies that show vaping has been an effective smoking cessation tool for many, that e-cigs are safeR that smoking, that there is no risk from 2nd hand vape, that vaping is a gateway from smoking, that teen smoking is down, that a drop of juice from an e-cig will not cause harm, and fail to put calls to poison control in perspective (check out how many calls they get for toothpaste) and I could go on.
Other states will follow CA like sheep presuming CA is right. Have you visited the legislation page and seen what states are already up to? Those warnings from CASAA at the top of the page keep on coming. It's sad how many areas basically copy the proposals from others.
I was blissfully unaware of the political situation for awhile. I have learned so much from resources here. Now I know I have to make my voice heard - be it comments countering the claims in poor articles or contacting state and federal representatives. For example, the state of VT is proposing to limit e-cig flavoring to just menthol. That makes no sense to me. Do we just let this go through as 'blah, blah, blah'? Not if I have any say so.
Unfortunately, the larger population doesn't know that and it's not an issue they'll research unless it applies to them somehow which leaves them believing the headlines. So John Q Public will go right along with proposals to treat vaping like smoking, ignorant of the fact that vaping isn't smoking, that there are studies that show vaping has been an effective smoking cessation tool for many, that e-cigs are safeR that smoking, that there is no risk from 2nd hand vape, that vaping is a gateway from smoking, that teen smoking is down, that a drop of juice from an e-cig will not cause harm, and fail to put calls to poison control in perspective (check out how many calls they get for toothpaste) and I could go on.
Other states will follow CA like sheep presuming CA is right. Have you visited the legislation page and seen what states are already up to? Those warnings from CASAA at the top of the page keep on coming. It's sad how many areas basically copy the proposals from others.
I was blissfully unaware of the political situation for awhile. I have learned so much from resources here. Now I know I have to make my voice heard - be it comments countering the claims in poor articles or contacting state and federal representatives. For example, the state of VT is proposing to limit e-cig flavoring to just menthol. That makes no sense to me. Do we just let this go through as 'blah, blah, blah'? Not if I have any say so.
i still say increased use of e-cigarettes by young people is not
from what we would consider vaping per say.
what they are using are party hookah's.
fruit flavored cigalikes with 0 nic,brightly decorated and colored
that are the new must have for any teen party.
you know,those parties where apparently its ok for them to
get bombed on flavored vodka and have safe sex using
flavored condoms.(sarcasm intended)
regards
mike
from what we would consider vaping per say.
what they are using are party hookah's.
fruit flavored cigalikes with 0 nic,brightly decorated and colored
that are the new must have for any teen party.
you know,those parties where apparently its ok for them to
get bombed on flavored vodka and have safe sex using
flavored condoms.(sarcasm intended)
regards
mike
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Wow, made the front page of the Chronicle this morning. The headline is a little misleading about the article itself... I would have liked just a smidgen less bias....
They will continue to push this kind of stuff out until we are too tired to fight it. It costs money for us to organize and lobby against it, where the health agencies have nearly limitless funding to attack us with. What it comes down to is the inconsistency of their fight. They wish to tax us on "Tobacco" but the fight would be foolish in some states. Farmers use nicotine in some insect deterrents, Nicotine grows naturally in some foods like Tomatoes. Will we be taxed on buying those as well? Next the try and punish us by stating the sweet flavors are marketing directly to children. Leading me to believe they live their lives totally absent of sweets. Thats not a life I want to live. Oh wait. Are they punishing Alcohol companies for making sweet flavored spirits? No? Why?
What we need to do is paint a smaller target on our backs. Vaping at the gas station, at a diner or in a public building may not be such a great option. Save the clouds for outdoors, in bars that allow it, or at home and in the vape shops. A good step would not to vent batteries and blow stuff up (May not send a good message). While Spirit companies can continue to make Cherry, watermelon, raspberry and bubblegum flavored vodkas and rums, I do not see why we cant vape something sweet. If the Health Agencies can look at 75k alcohol related deaths a year(US Only) and sleep at night, I do not see why we cant vape and be happy.
What we need to do is paint a smaller target on our backs. Vaping at the gas station, at a diner or in a public building may not be such a great option. Save the clouds for outdoors, in bars that allow it, or at home and in the vape shops. A good step would not to vent batteries and blow stuff up (May not send a good message). While Spirit companies can continue to make Cherry, watermelon, raspberry and bubblegum flavored vodkas and rums, I do not see why we cant vape something sweet. If the Health Agencies can look at 75k alcohol related deaths a year(US Only) and sleep at night, I do not see why we cant vape and be happy.
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