Bridgeless is a drippers dream atty

[donnah]

I can't tell much difference when I take the wick out of my atty performance wise.. but when I start getting a regular burnt taste, I fish out the wick and the burnt taste goes away.

Chornbro... you said you've done surgery.. are you an actual surgeon? (I'm a surgical tech is my reason for asking) From what I've read, the wick was designed to use with cartridges.. you don't need it with direct dripping. also the crackling you hear could also be a sign that the atty is flooded. There is a difference between crackling and gurgling.

 

[revolver]

I have to chime in here... This guy is right. I've done extensive surgery, but haven't had the balls to remove the strand of wick that actually runs through the center circle of the coil. I get great results from JUST removing the bridge... and leaving the previously mentioned portion of the wick inside the coil. How would an atty function without it?

Ive finally done this and trust me... You wouldnt wanna do this... =)

 

[Chornbro]

I can't tell much difference when I take the wick out of my atty performance wise.. but when I start getting a regular burnt taste, I fish out the wick and the burnt taste goes away.

Chornbro... you said you've done surgery.. are you an actual surgeon? (I'm a surgical tech is my reason for asking) From what I've read, the wick was designed to use with cartridges.. you don't need it with direct dripping. also the crackling you hear could also be a sign that the atty is flooded. There is a difference between crackling and gurgling.

Amateur surgery... I work on computers : ) I can tell the difference between a flooded vs. not-flooded atty. My issue was whether or not to remove the ENTIRE wick... i.e., the wick that goes through the center of the coil vs. the parts of the wick that surround the bridge/atty.

Ive finally done this and trust me... You wouldnt wanna do this... =)

I wouldnt think so... seems like a bad idea to remove the center wick. When this 306 goes bad, maybe I'll experiment with the next one. Seems like debridged but not de-wicked would be perfect.

 

[revolver]

... seems like a bad idea to remove the center wick. When this 306 goes bad, maybe I'll experiment with the next one. Seems like debridged but not de-wicked would be perfect.

Yes... Remeber the term 'dewicked' as commonly used, though, means that the wicking-fibers outside the center of the coil are the ones to be removed...

 

[Chornbro]

Yes... Remeber the term 'dewicked' as commonly used, though, means that the wicking-fibers outside the center of the coil are the ones to be removed...

Gotcha : )

I might have to disagree, fellas... Dewicking has been better for me than debridging. On a debridged atty, I only get 1-2 good hits... and they're much less consistent hits. On my Dewicked attys, I get consistently great hits and more of them. just my .02!

 

[Gracchus Grey]

are you talking about a 510? I drip on a debridged/wicked 510, and a few drops last FOREVER. like a dozen good hits. probably more.

On the 306, you dont want to debridge. I just shear away the wick, leaving the bridge and the inner fibers.

 

[Chornbro]

are you talking about a 510? I drip on a debridged/wicked 510, and a few drops last FOREVER. like a dozen good hits. probably more.

On the 306, you dont want to debridge. I just shear away the wick, leaving the bridge and the inner fibers.

510's dont drip quite as well as a 306... for me, at least. In the above post, I was talking about a 306. Ikenvape HV 306s (de wicked, NOT debridged) are vaping nirvana at 6v... Cisco LR 306s (dewicked, NOT debridged) at 3.7 is a close second.

I've yet to dewick/bridge a 510, but the 306s satisfy me so well that I really havent needed to experiment with 510s

 

[Scorched]

Chornbro
I might have to disagree, fellas... Dewicking has been better for me than debridging. On a debridged atty, I only get 1-2 good hits... and they're much less consistent hits. On my Dewicked attys, I get consistently great hits and more of them. just my .02!

I will have to agree with this one. Removing the wicking fibers on atomizers is a great way of removing the burnt taste but removing the bridge is a no-no in my opinion. The bridge acts as a wick it self, more effective than the wicking fibers IMO. If you cannot get liquid to wick to the atomizer you can only vape what you can drop onto the coil... in most cases this is just about one drop of liquid. Anymore than that and in my expierence atomizers will flood and leak. Where only being able to use one drop at a time seems kind of pointless to me.

If you want a drippers dream atomizer, go with the 306!

 

[Gracchus Grey]

Honestly I prefer the airflow of a debridged 510. Plus, if you debridge a 510, it's a perfectly clear vapor path from the coil to your taste buds. Bridge=Condensation=Flavor Loss. And I love being able to see the coil. It's reduced to perfect simplicity...

And because 306s have a small inner wicking system, you really need an ultrasonic cleaner. But they're like $30 on amazon...

510s dont work with my bottomfeeder though. Plus, one enormous advantage of the 306 is the Cannon. The cannon is biggest motivation for me to use a 306. It's huge, so dripping is easy, and the inner diameter shifts, meaning you will NEVER get juice in your mouth, unless you actually tip it past horizontal. And clear looks awesome. Looked good on my infinity; looks good on my Cherry Journeyman, which is surprising.

And the length doesn't diminish flavor; The expanded inner diameter makes up for the distance.

 

[Scorched]

Yeah I just got a cannon drip tip for my 306 today and I got to say it's quite the work of art. AND it's functional!

So what exactly would you need an ultrasonic cleaner for anyways? Dry-burn method seems to work wonders on 306 510 801 and 901 atomizers

 

[Gracchus Grey]

Yeah I just got a cannon drip tip for my 306 today and I got to say it's quite the work of art. AND it's functional!

So what exactly would you need an ultrasonic cleaner for anyways? Dry-burn method seems to work wonders on 306 510 801 and 901 atomizers

The 306 has an inner wicking system, unlike the rest of them. For me, after a week's use, it gets all clogged up, regardless of how much i've been blowing it out/ dry burning. Pop it in the cleaner; good as new.

 

[revolver]

Gotcha : )

I might have to disagree, fellas... Dewicking has been better for me than debridging. On a debridged atty, I only get 1-2 good hits... and they're much less consistent hits. On my Dewicked attys, I get consistently great hits and more of them. just my .02!

I totally AGREE.... You are 100 % RIGHT!

are you talking about a 510? I drip on a debridged/wicked 510, and a few drops last FOREVER. like a dozen good hits. probably more.

On the 306, you dont want to debridge. I just shear away the wick, leaving the bridge and the inner fibers.

Well maybe a few drops work for you on a 510 with no bridge, but it must be due to your vaping rythm... In general, 510s, if dewicked and debridged, will eventually work only with one drop at a time and this will translate into just a 3ish puffs vape-session...

510's dont drip quite as well as a 306... for me, at least. In the above post, I was talking about a 306. Ikenvape HV 306s (de wicked, NOT debridged) are vaping nirvana at 6v... Cisco LR 306s (dewicked, NOT debridged) at 3.7 is a close second.

I've yet to dewick/bridge a 510, but the 306s satisfy me so well that I really havent needed to experiment with 510s

Totally Agreed!

I will have to agree with this one. Removing the wicking fibers on atomizers is a great way of removing the burnt taste but removing the bridge is a no-no in my opinion. The bridge acts as a wick it self, more effective than the wicking fibers IMO. If you cannot get liquid to wick to the atomizer you can only vape what you can drop onto the coil... in most cases this is just about one drop of liquid. Anymore than that and in my expierence atomizers will flood and leak. Where only being able to use one drop at a time seems kind of pointless to me.

If you want a drippers dream atomizer, go with the 306!

Agreed...

Honestly I prefer the airflow of a debridged 510. Plus, if you debridge a 510, it's a perfectly clear vapor path from the coil to your taste buds. Bridge=Condensation=Flavor Loss. And I love being able to see the coil. It's reduced to perfect simplicity...

And because 306s have a small inner wicking system, you really need an ultrasonic cleaner. But they're like $30 on amazon...

510s dont work with my bottomfeeder though. Plus, one enormous advantage of the 306 is the Cannon. The cannon is biggest motivation for me to use a 306. It's huge, so dripping is easy, and the inner diameter shifts, meaning you will NEVER get juice in your mouth, unless you actually tip it past horizontal. And clear looks awesome. Looked good on my infinity; looks good on my Cherry Journeyman, which is surprising.

And the length doesn't diminish flavor; The expanded inner diameter makes up for the distance.

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Well, guess some may have their 'right' reasons as to prefer a debridged unit... But in general, it is a choice which is to be praised by newbies out of inexperience... Not your case... But, the quotes above seem to illustrate some consensus among us...
Bottom line being:
No-debridging as a general rule...!
=)

 

[Gracchus Grey]

FYI-- My debridged 306 holds exactly 9 drops of liquid when it's completely clean-- As in ultra sonic w/ vodka, given a few minutes to evaporate clean. the 10th drop will hover on top before forming a small ring of wetness at the bottom of the atty

 

[Chornbro]

FYI-- My debridged 306 holds exactly 9 drops of liquid when it's completely clean-- As in ultra sonic w/ vodka, given a few minutes to evaporate clean. the 10th drop will hover on top before forming a small ring of wetness at the bottom of the atty

9 drops?? Wow... my bridged and wicked, brand new 306s only hold 7... what vendor are those from?

 

[revolver]

The question is not what's the vendor, but:

What's the drops' size? Cause if your drops are slightly smaller 9 will equall 7...

 

[Chornbro]

The question is not what's the vendor, but:

What's the drops' size? Cause if your drops are slightly smaller 9 will equall 7...

Very good point...

 

[wrigleyvillain]

Yes I have been considering this especially after dewicking and I have a few 510s. It is time.

UPDATE: Did it with one of my LR 510s. Was pretty easy with a vid plus tweezers and a Swiss Army knife. So far though I don't feel like it works much better or differently either in terms of vapor production or flavor. However, the jury is still officially out. Also the juice doesn't really visibly pool in the reservoir like I would expect. I did overfill at first and it leaked so don't need more juice in there afaik.

Got a cool pic too. Perhaps a new avatar

 

[LEDshine]

i am totally going to try this i am only a few months into vaping but now i have about 8 mods under my belt and more aftermarket customs that i have done for people at the local vape shop. depending on how well this works i may add this to my list of after market mods. thank you for the excellent video how to

 

[Chornbro]

Yes I have been considering this especially after dewicking and I have a few 510s. It is time.

UPDATE: Did it with one of my LR 510s. Was pretty easy with a vid plus tweezers and a Swiss Army knife. So far though I don't feel like it works much better or differently either in terms of vapor production or flavor. However, the jury is still officially out. Also the juice doesn't really visibly pool in the reservoir like I would expect. I did overfill at first and it leaked so don't need more juice in there afaik.

Got a cool pic too. Perhaps a new avatar

doesnt really pool up for me either... after dripping w 306s for a little while now, I believe that the juice collects below the coils in the mesh... it's sort of like a reservoir. When I pull on the drip tip, it pulls juice up through the coil, vaporizing it as it passes...

 

[wrigleyvillain]

doesnt really pool up for me either... after dripping w 306s for a little while now, I believe that the juice collects below the coils in the mesh... it's sort of like a reservoir. When I pull on the drip tip, it pulls juice up through the coil, vaporizing it as it passes...

Yeah ok and I have since noticed a hole in the reservoir in my debridged 510 to lead the juice down below so it's not supposed to really pool in there around the coil. This atty is working better for me now than right after I removed bridge but it's hardly night and day. I have just dewicked my others.

Still not impressed with my one LR 306 in comparison though and I keep trying to give it a chance. Need to try a couple diff ones I guess, maybe an ikenvape next or one of those new Maelstroms when back in stock.