BT's way of winning in the end?

[AngeNZ]

I'm a 45yo New Zealander, and I have absolutely no axe to grind, except one:

I smoked for 25 years. Therefore the tobacco companies have had more than their fair share of my money, and more importantly my health.

Thanks to vaping, using RBAs and mods, and diying my own ejuices - I've been smoke-free for 20 months.

One company that looks like winning, with all the fake news and hysteria being dredged up in USA over vaping is Phillip Morris International. And I'm not talking about their cigarette products - but rather their IQOS product.

A Device That Heats Tobacco, But Doesn't Burn It, Can Now Be Sold in the U.S. Here's What to Know About IQOS

The FDA have already approved this product for sale in USA. And how does the IQOS work?

the FDA says the pen-like IQOS device heats, but does not burn, “tobacco-filled sticks” wrapped in paper, creating an aerosol that contains nicotine. Marlboro, an Altria brand, will make the tobacco sticks used inside the cartridge, which will come in menthol and unflavored versions.

It's pretty much a cigarette, that goes into a device which 'heats' the tobacco, so you can inhale it.

Here's Why IQOS Could Completely Own the U.S. E-Cig Market | The Motley Fool

And how safe is it?

Comparison of Chemicals in Mainstream Smoke in Heat-not-burn Tobacco and Combustion Cigarettes. - PubMed - NCBI

There is little scientific data, however, of the hazards and toxicity of iQOS. In this study, we evaluated several harmful compounds (nicotine, tar, carbon monoxide (CO) and tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs)) in the mainstream smoke and fillers of iQOS, and compared their concentrations with those from conventional combustion cigarettes.

The concentrations of nicotine in tobacco fillers and the mainstream smoke of iQOS were almost the same as those of conventional combustion cigarettes, while the concentration of TSNAs was one fifth and CO was one hundredth of those of conventional combustion cigarettes. These toxic compounds are not completely removed from the mainstream smoke of iQOS, making it necessary to consider the health effects and regulation of iQOS.

iQOS may not be as harm-free as claimed, study finds

The University of California study found that, since the device could only be used for six-minutes before it needed to be recharged, it may cause some people to shorten the interval between puffs in order to make sure they did not waste any of the tobacco stick which could increase the possible toxic exposure.

But of greater concern was that the polymer filter melted slightly during use and released formaldehyde cyanohydrin, a toxic substance which could be fatal to humans. The compound is metabolised in the liver and broken down into formaldehyde and cyanide.

"This study has shown that the iQOS system may not be as harm-free as claimed and also emphasises the urgent need for further safety testing as the popularity and user base of this product is growing rapidly," the study concluded.

University of Otago public health and marketing Professor Janet Hoek said the findings led her to question whether it really was a "reduced harm" product as claimed by the manufacturers.

If users inhaled more frequently as it was suggested, it was likely they would "increase their nicotine intake and exposure to harmful compounds present in the inhaled aerosol", she said.

She said those who had tried unsuccessfully to quit smoking were better off considering e-cigarettes.

Just my

 

[Rossum]

Altria's current stock price trend is not indicative of winning. They hit a 5-year low yesterday.

 

[DPLongo22]

Don't count out Big Pharma quite yet.

Vape Is Dead. Long Live Sprape?

 

[ScottP]

But of greater concern was that the polymer filter melted slightly during use and released formaldehyde cyanohydrin, a toxic substance which could be fatal to humans. The compound is metabolised in the liver and broken down into formaldehyde and cyanide.

OK say what you want about vaping, but at least it doesn't break down into cyanide in the liver. I can't believe they are OK with this and want to kill vaping.

 

[bombastinator]

OK say what you want about vaping, but at least it doesn't break down into cyanide in the liver. I can't believe they are OK with this and want to kill vaping.

I can definitely believe BT is OK with it. That business has been about killing people for money and then lying about it for a long time. What I find astounding is that people are willing to listen to them, or be willing to speak for them because they’re paid to. They become complicit. The money is dirty. They join the killing people for money thing without realizing it.

 

[ScottP]

I can definitely believe BT is OK with it. That business has been about killing people for money and then lying about it for a long time. What I find astounding is that people are willing to listen to them, or be willing to speak for them because they’re paid to. They become complicit. The money is dirty. They join the killing people for money thing without realizing it.

OH i don't doubt BT is OK with it. I was more meaning the FDA and politicians.

 

[bombastinator]

OH i don't doubt BT is OK with it. I was more meaning the FDA and politicians.

I don’t think they realize yet that the doughnut they bit into is filled with poop. I suspect that’s how BT recruits people. Offer people better titles and more money than other people will give them, wait for them to “make their bones” to quote a mafia term, and then they’re stuck.

The taste of that poop is coming though.

 

[Opinionated]

it's just so sad.. it all just saddens me, about this nation and what we've become.

 

[bombastinator]

it's just so sad.. it all just saddens me, about this nation and what we've become.

Yep. I’ve felt that way since the 80’s.

The 40’s to the 70’s seem to have been america’s high point. I doubt it felt like it at the time though.

 

[Opinionated]

Yep. I’ve felt that way since the 80’s.

The 40’s to the 70’s seem to have been america’s high point. I doubt it felt like it at the time though.

I don't know.. my dad used to complain about those darn hippies.. lol.. So I guess it's a matter of perception..