BWB RY4 & E-Joker 1st timers

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Mr.Mann

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Mr.Mann, I so agree! To test different flavors I run my Don with a Kick. That way I can adjust the power to evaluate the best taste to power setting. When I'm not on my Don, I run a 801HP with a drip tip to see how that tastes. So, as we all are, I'm searching for vaping nirvana. What makes my journey exciting and rewarding is the fact that I'm not smoking anymore. From here on in it's all good... right?

OH YEAH...(in the voice of the late great Barry White)

Hey Sanjosse, are you vape tasting first day reception? :confused: Why-o'-why did I word it like that? LOL Are you tasting on the first day? I know I am!!!
 

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Mr.Mann,

:thumbs:Fur sure! I'll be doing daily taste tests right from the start. Might even start a log to record my impressions along the way.

Side note: How 'bout those Tigers, aye! They're playing up in Oaktown. But since it's Mother's Day weekend, I wont be able to catch'em this time around.
 

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They're here.....
 

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I received my order yesterday! Guess it helps that I am only about 80 miles from BWB ;)

I had ordered the RY4 and Ejoker along with 5 other flavors, and they threw in a bottle of 555e and Malty Toffee for free! Very nice of the fine folks at BWB :)

I haven't tasted any of them yet, just opened the bottles and took a sniff of each one. I can tell they have barely even begun to form into anything yet. They all have a born on date of 5/8. I'll be shaking and opening daily for a sniff test, but I'm going to give them about a week before the first taste.
 

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We LOVE are TIGERS round here!

Bring the log to the thread. I will be here doing the same...I wonder if today will be the day?

I will most definitely share my thoughts here. I'll make it part of my morning ritual. But I have a funny feeling it'll end up looking something like this;

Day 1: ehh, Day 2: ehhm, Day 3: ehm,
Day 4: uhm……………
Day 7: yum…………………
Day 14: YUMMY…………………
Day 21: OMG THIS STUFF IS GOLD, PURE GOLD!

Sidenote: I'm originally from central Michigan/CMU area. I can remember as a kid going to big city once a year with the rest of my little league team to see 'em play. Norm Cash, Mickey Stanley, Al Kaline, and the voices of Ernie Harwell and Paul Carey. MAN those were the days!!!
 
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don't be bashful jump right in and taste them!
I received my order yesterday! Guess it helps that I am only about 80 miles from BWB ;)

I had ordered the RY4 and Ejoker along with 5 other flavors, and they threw in a bottle of 555e and Malty Toffee for free! Very nice of the fine folks at BWB :)

I haven't tasted any of them yet, just opened the bottles and took a sniff of each one. I can tell they have barely even begun to form into anything yet. They all have a born on date of 5/8. I'll be shaking and opening daily for a sniff test, but I'm going to give them about a week before the first taste.
 

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don't be bashful jump right in and taste them!

Well thing is I don't have a good atty to drip-taste on, and didn't want to fill a clearomizer too soon.

Also yesterday when I first got the (only 2-day-old) juices right out of the mail and opened them up, most of them had almost no scent at all. I felt it would be a mistake to even taste them at that point. Today, however, they have all developed scents to them, so I'm gonna go try a few now.

Thanks again for the free samples!
 

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OK, these juices are only 3 days old, but curiosity got the better of me and I tried the RY4 and Ejoker...

RY4: Tastes like a crisp, clean, light tobacco, with a hint of something I can't quite make out. This unknown "something" has a somewhat chemical taste to it, but not in an unpleasant way at all. In fact, the more I vape it the more I like it, even though I don't know what "it" is. Perhaps it is the "uncommon vanilla" the juice description on the website speaks of, but at this point I can detect no vanilla taste at all. This juice is just too young at this point but hey, I already knew that.

Ejoker: A much stronger taste than the RY4. Strong, but not overpoweringly so; there is a light, crispness to the taste as well. I get cinnamon and menthol, menthol and cinnamon, and somewhere lurking in the background is that same chemical "something" (again, not unpleasant!) that was more pronounced in the RY4. Again, like the RY4, this juice is simply too young to get anywhere near the full intended effect. Even so, I can't seem to put either one down, and I'm currently going back and forth between them trying to figure them out!

My best guess, based on the fact that these two juices share a common ingredient which is in limited supply, along with my subjective experience of a common "chemical" taste in both juices, while not tasting any of the "uncommon vanilla" in the RY4 that I should be tasting...the "chemical" taste I am getting will at some point revel itself as a vanilla taste, both as a main taste note in the RY4, as well as a more subtle taste note in the Ejoker. How's that for a run-on sentence.

My favorite theory, however, is that the secret ingredient in all BWB juices is some ancient elixir Don discovered in a hidden cave somewhere in the Shawangunk Mountains, possibly near Lake Minnewaska :p
 

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Hi gang. Some of u may know me from the BWB fanboy thread. Which means I am by no means new to RY4 and Ejokers Blend. I was hoping though that you wouldn't mind if I tossed in my 2 cents.

First of all, and I know you have read this before but taste is a very subjective and individual thing. One need only look at the proliferation of juice vendors and flavors to know this be true. That said, the bottom line is, vape it when it tastes best to you.

Now that I have that disclaimer out of the way, let's talk about steeping (or aging or whatever u prefer to call it). It's simply the "process" of letting your juice mature. Why is this necessary? Well, in a lot of cases it isn't. Steeping seems to be a bigger issue when dealing with "real" tobacco flavors. Here the word "real" means that the tobacco was extracted in some way, as opposed to using a flavourart or other brand of flavoring. Steeping also seems to help the organic juices whether they are tobacco flavors or not. The idea behind steeping is this: tobacco flavors are more complex and need a bit of time to mature to peak flavor. Ok so what is peak flavor? Or, more to the point, when is peak flavor? Unfortunately this is not an easy question to answer. It now starts coming down to individual taste preferences again. As I was reading posts in this thread I see a number of responses that range from 2 weeks to a month. I agree that most juices will reach maturity in that timeframe.

That said I have done some fun experiments with long term aging with some very nice results. So far the longest I have managed to keep a batch of RY4 around is 18 months. And yes, it does continue to change over that much time. An 18 month old bottle of RY4 will pretty much kick u on the teeth with tobacco flavor up front. On exhale u finally get back some of that sweetness. I found my 12 month old bottle to be just about perfect for me. Tons of upfront tobacco but still a balance with the sweetness that was lost by 18 months. Is it really necessary to horde juice this long? Of course not. Is it fun to experiment? Yup! It sure is.

To summarize this somewhat lengthy post: 1) steeping is more important for tobaccos/organic juices than other flavors. 2) length of time to steep is an entirely individual subjective issue. When it tastes good to you, vape it!
3) if you have a good stash of juice, set one aside, have fun experimenting. It's your hobby as well as your habit, may as well enjoy it to the fullest!
 
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I got my first bottle of RY4. Been trying for over a year. I was trying to figure out what it reminded me of. I knew there was something familiar about it. About 15 years ago when I was smoking a pipe I read about this blend that was only available from a store in Montreal. I called and ordered some. It was expensive and there was a slight language barrier, they spoke French, but it had the same complex taste as this does. It was very good and different from anything else I had ever tried. I got off the pipe and went back to cigarettes but thought I would throw that in.
 

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Definitely go ahead and try it. It will give you a "baseline reading". Then you'll have a pretty good idea one week later, two weeks later how much it has changed.
What he said, everybody. Try it! It may or may not "work" for you right now, but it is very cool to keep tabs on when it blossoms. It is fascinating to taste the difference! But, you can only taste the difference if you have tried it....

Happy to see Phorbin round these parts!
 
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