my wife has copd and is still hooked on the stinkies,am i doing the right thing trying to get her into vaping?
C.O.P.D-safe to vape or not?
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I have asthma, and have vaped for over a year. It's really a very individual thing, but if her lungs can tolerate cigarettes, they can certainly tolerate some flavored mist with nicotine in it. She would have to find her own individual "sweet spot" -- a style of vaping that's good enough to substitute for smoking that doesn't cause her any problems.
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ok thanks,i been keeping on to her for a while now but think shes worried it will make it worse.
When I am having problems one of the great things with vaping is that you DO NOT need to actually inhale it into your lungs, you can take it into your mouth and exhale through your nose, they say you actually get more nic that way as well.
You definately want to cunsult with her doctor, though. Be sure to emphasize that it's a way to get her off of the cigarettes (or at least vastly reduce her cigarette usage).
Yes, she should immediately switch. PG is used as an aerial cleaner in hospitals. Yes, vape. I have not been sick since I started. (year and a half)
Isn't it great! I didn't inhale very deeply when I smoked, because of the asthma, and it turns out to be just right for vaping; I often take a couple of those shallow "nose" vapes, then one small inhale, and it works really well.
The shallow/nose exhale also gives you really excellent flavor.Andria
Since I started vaping a month ago I have not woken up coughing or anything which is very nice. And I smoked for 20+ years. Just took me finding the right kind of mod that works for me instead of the cheap things that just produce some vapor and do nothing else. Good luck getting her off the analogs.
Thanks for the reminder, Yarael. It's been so long since I've had that morning cough I had forgotten what it was like. Sometimes, it's not the bad things that sneak up and get accepted as normal.
I still have some congestion to deal with in the mornings, guess it's normal for asthma, to get those airways cleared. What I LOVE is not waking up gasping for breath and sounding like a waterpipe, grabbing for the inhaler before my eyes are even open! I do use my inhaler when I wake up, but it's after my feet are in slippers and the robe is on and I'm heading for the bathroom. Much nicer!
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Okay so NO ONE knows what the long term effects of vaping will be. I think that needs to be clear. But one thing we know for sure is that cigarettes increase a person's basal carbon monoxide level by a factor of 10. Therefore less oxygen is being delivered by the lungs to the bloodstream, a phenomenon known as hypoxia. Now, a person with COPD is already hypoxic due to their disease process and then you add continued CO exposure and the problem gets worse. Vaping has no CO production because there are no combustion products.
That is science you and your wife can rely on. The rest is speculation and anecdote. But I'm sure we would all agree we feel much better than when we smoked. Hopefully we can say the same in 10 years. Good luck getting your wife to quit, mine's still puffing away.
I'll throw in here.... This is what I have seen: I'm a home health RN and have MANY COPD clients. So far any that have asked their doc, doc has said yes, go for it, it is better. Now my smokers have had fits with shortness of breath, congestion, even pneumonia this year with our weird weather... My vapers- not using more/any O2 unless they've been out in the cold. (Some of these were on 02 continuously before vaping).
Same as any smoke>vape switch... takes a bit to figure out what works for you in reguards to PG/VG, and nic. Plus, a little time before you stop hacking with every draw.
I say call her Dr and ask his/her nurse. They know where the Dr stands. Then Go for it!
Same as any smoke>vape switch... takes a bit to figure out what works for you in reguards to PG/VG, and nic. Plus, a little time before you stop hacking with every draw.
I say call her Dr and ask his/her nurse. They know where the Dr stands. Then Go for it!
Pharmacy student here, so maybe what I say will have a bit more weight with your wife. 
Cigarettes are 100% guaranteed to exacerbate COPD and to cause disease progression over time. If she is smoking cigarettes, she WILL get sicker and sicker until she can no longer breathe.
Ecigs/vaping have less than 1% of the chemicals found in cigarette smoke. Every study done on vaping has shown that it poses a miniscule health risk compared to cigarettes. The only downside I have found to vaping is that some scientists theorize that it could make bacterial infections of the respiratory tract worse. Note that this does not apply to COPD in any way. (The reason that they think it might make bacterial infections worse is because some bacteria produce a thicker mucus capsule when exposed to vape smoke)
I would strongly recommend that your wife change to vaping, as it will provide relief from her constant symptoms and would increase her ability to breathe.
Now, I'm sure that stopping smoking or vaping entirely would be better for her health, but most people with COPD don't stop smoking until they are on 100% O2 and their family makes them stop for fear of the house blowing up 0_O
Since vaping is not actually burning a combustible material, she won't be inhaling carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide, so her body will be much more able to absorb oxygen with every breath she takes. Not to mention she won't be inhaling the chemicals that are added to cigarettes such as rat poison and jet fuel (yes seriously, jet fuel).
I hope you have success getting her to change, and I hope it helps her health!
(Be sure you talk to your doctor of course, but its likely that they will have little to know actual knowledge about vaping. If you give them some basic info such as what I posted here, maybe they will support you in trying to get your wife to switch)
Cigarettes are 100% guaranteed to exacerbate COPD and to cause disease progression over time. If she is smoking cigarettes, she WILL get sicker and sicker until she can no longer breathe.
Ecigs/vaping have less than 1% of the chemicals found in cigarette smoke. Every study done on vaping has shown that it poses a miniscule health risk compared to cigarettes. The only downside I have found to vaping is that some scientists theorize that it could make bacterial infections of the respiratory tract worse. Note that this does not apply to COPD in any way. (The reason that they think it might make bacterial infections worse is because some bacteria produce a thicker mucus capsule when exposed to vape smoke)
I would strongly recommend that your wife change to vaping, as it will provide relief from her constant symptoms and would increase her ability to breathe.
Now, I'm sure that stopping smoking or vaping entirely would be better for her health, but most people with COPD don't stop smoking until they are on 100% O2 and their family makes them stop for fear of the house blowing up 0_O
Since vaping is not actually burning a combustible material, she won't be inhaling carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide, so her body will be much more able to absorb oxygen with every breath she takes. Not to mention she won't be inhaling the chemicals that are added to cigarettes such as rat poison and jet fuel (yes seriously, jet fuel).
I hope you have success getting her to change, and I hope it helps her health!
(Be sure you talk to your doctor of course, but its likely that they will have little to know actual knowledge about vaping. If you give them some basic info such as what I posted here, maybe they will support you in trying to get your wife to switch)
Moderate emphysema here too after 40 years of smoking. I'd suggest getting two of the same liquids.
One high in PG(80%), One high in VG(80%). Reason being, when I first started I started with 50/50 liquids and experienced chest tightness. It went away rather quickly once I stopped vaping but I needed to see if my vaping experience could be improved further so I might smoke even less.
After some experimentation I found it was the VG causing the tightness/heaviness.
Now I use >80% PG with minimal flavouring 5% or so and vape to my hearts content.
My nic levels are now about 8mg/ml and I haven't had or needed a smoke in over a year and a half.
DIY was the only way I know of to do this effectively.
All the best to you both. Cheers.
One high in PG(80%), One high in VG(80%). Reason being, when I first started I started with 50/50 liquids and experienced chest tightness. It went away rather quickly once I stopped vaping but I needed to see if my vaping experience could be improved further so I might smoke even less.
After some experimentation I found it was the VG causing the tightness/heaviness.
Now I use >80% PG with minimal flavouring 5% or so and vape to my hearts content.
My nic levels are now about 8mg/ml and I haven't had or needed a smoke in over a year and a half.
DIY was the only way I know of to do this effectively.
All the best to you both. Cheers.
Moderate emphysema here too after 40 years of smoking. I'd suggest getting two of the same liquids.
One high in PG(80%), One high in VG(80%). Reason being, when I first started I started with 50/50 liquids and experienced chest tightness. It went away rather quickly once I stopped vaping but I needed to see if my vaping experience could be improved further so I might smoke even less.
After some experimentation I found it was the VG causing the tightness/heaviness.
Now I use >80% PG with minimal flavouring 5% or so and vape to my hearts content.
My nic levels are now about 8mg/ml and I haven't had or needed a smoke in over a year and a half.
DIY was the only way I know of to do this effectively.
All the best to you both. Cheers.
While I understand what you are saying concerning the pg, I will say this, I can not vape high pg juices, I seem to be pg sensitive, I also know many others who are as well, what is used in our meds and breathing treatments doesn't cause the same issue for me, not sure if it is due to using it less, or it not being heated.
my wife has copd and is still hooked on the stinkies,am i doing the right thing trying to get her into vaping?
If she didn't smoke, I'd say no, but gosh, this is an easy decision to make.......VAPING IS BETTER FOR HER by far I believe.
GL, is she open to this idea?
I would also suggest she avoid the diketone eliquids if she has compromised lungs already. Dr. F. characterized it as an avoidable risk so it seems like somebodhy with COPD or emphysema would want to take advantage of whatever harm reduction they possibly can.
Hey NancyR, you hit the nail on the head, we each are different. On our vaping journey as with any new adventure we sometimes take 3 steps forward and realize we don't wanna go there so end up taking 2 steps back. We each need to take these steps ourselves(with caution) to find the best route for us to take. Each to their own, and whatever works best to keep us off the stinkies is where we need to be. Cheers.
Edit...it's possible the pg used in the meds is the very high grade stuff.
I was not aware there is diff grades(for lack of a better word) until the last time I was at the compounding pharmacy to get my Medisca PG. It normally costs about 20 dollars a litre but the pharmacist asked if I wanted the 80 dollar a bottle stuff. I declined the offer, but did take note of the option.
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ok thanks to all for the great info,looks like a no brainer just as I was thinking but just wanted a second opinion from people that understand vaping,ive been vaping myself for about 5 months now after 25 years of smoking and can honestly say im not going back.
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