California Vapers - Newbie Needs Your Online Purchase Laws/Etc. Input

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OrthodoxAtheist

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Personally I've found the CA AG's office to be as informed as a bag of rocks on many subjects in their jurisdiction. :| It also doesn't matter what they say on the phone to you; If you're going to rely on something they say, you need it in writing. That takes time and money too. If I were you I would be completely satisfied with CASAA's writing, since if you were to get in trouble (which you won't) you could produce their writing as the basis for your actions and you then wouldn't be held accountable (they would go after CASAA instead, if they had misinformed you, which they haven't).

While your caution is commendable and may be influenced by your education in journalism, it is likely more influenced by our State doing their best to revoke people's benefits for the slightest infraction. I've seen it happen absent an infraction, numerous times (I have some involvement with Medi-Cal and the Veterans Administration). Buying an e-cig makes benefit-loss no more likely, but does help you breathe easier and keep more money in your pocket. :) I'm saving $150 a month now thanks to e-cigs. That does wonders for fixed incomes. ;) buy an e-cig and juice from a California-based vendor using a card over the phone, or reveal your general area and one of us may live close enough to assist you.

The biggest regret I have regarding e-cigs is not taking the plunge when I first read about them a year before buying one.
 
I've pretty much come to terms with the whole legal thing. Besides, if push were to come to shove, I'd have no problem defending a choice as switching to e-cigs as beneficial to society as a whole on its own merits -- less medical costs, less CO2, etc. "Oh, yeah, punish me for actually doing something good for my health and society as a whole. Makes no sense!" :eek:)

As to taking the plunge, I'm getting closer to doing so for thanks to feedback in my first posting and the hours I've spent reading various threads and "for beginners" sticky postings/blogs, I've got a fairly good sense of what I should get. It's a matter of trusting my instinct on timing, though I know that I'm in part also maybe procrastinating out of fear that it may not work for me. I can only find out by actually taking the step. It will be soon - by the end of this year most likely.
 
While pretty much a "duh..." I might as well post the reply got from California. Public Health Law & Policy (PHLP) - the other organization I had sent my question. I'm way over 18 years old and nuttin' is gonna stop me from becoming a vaper law-wise. I pay taxes, I don't steal and I vote. I'm legit :eek:)
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I received your question about the legality of purchasing e-cigarettes and related products online within California. Public Health Law & Policy (PHLP) and its projects do not enter into attorney-client relationships and cannot offer legal advice. However, I’m able to provide you with general legal information which might be helpful.

Mail order or internet sales of tobacco products in California are governed by California and federal law (California Business and Professions Code Section 22963, which is part of the STAKE Act, and the federal Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act, which is known as the PACT Act). The STAKE Act prohibits selling or distributing tobacco products to minors via public or private postal services, and requires specific procedures to ensure that people who order tobacco products by mail are 18 years of age or older. The PACT Act prohibits delivery sales of certain tobacco products via the U.S. Postal Service, and it requires other delivery services (for example UPS, FedEx, etc.) to verify that the buyer and the recipient are of minimum legal age before they can complete the delivery.

For an analysis of whether these laws apply to e-cigarettes and related products, I would urge you to consult with private legal counsel.
I hope this information is helpful to you.

Best regards,

Matthew Moore, JD, MPH
Staff Attorney
Public Health Law & Policy
2201 Broadway, Suite 502
Oakland, CA 94612
P: (510) 302-3324
F: (510) 444-8253
mmoore@phlpnet.org
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Totally non sequitor- But! Your cat is really cute :3

No law against occasional non-sequiturs at this forum as far as I know - lol

As to my cat Ziggy The Pud (as per Tweety Bird's pronunciation, "I twot I swaw a puddy cat"), he knows it too--and so gets away with stuff with this bi-ped push-over. He was found in the alley behind my funk apartment building where I used to live and so I adopted him after posters, etc. to see if someone had lost him.

That was September 2003. Longest live-with-someone relationship I've ever had.
(Now that's pathetic--and a non-sequitur too :eek:)
 
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ibobbyvapor

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A good friend of mine purchases Cigars out of state online all the time and he is a police officer. There was an attempted ban on e-cig that never passed. From what I understand if you receive a package from a store and they mess up its not your fault, its the stores. People buy e-cig and analogs from out of state online all the time.
 
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