Camel Light = what in E cig flavor?

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Nepenthy

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I smoked camel lights for over a decade and found I really enjoy Dekang Camel and Winston. 80% Camel to 20% Ruyan4# also makes a nice "turkish blend". I would recommend getting several tobacco flavors, like Marl, Camel, Winston, Kent, Virgina...etc. Ive found I get accustomed to a flavor and throat hit and it leaves me wanting a cig. Switching flavors at that point always cures the cravings for me.
 

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All RMV. I'm not sure where it comes from, though somebody told me their Kent was Ruyan. I don't know the supplier.

Sorry I couldn't have been more help :(

Dave

Dave,

Just from what I've gathered along the way there are two types of "Dekang" juices (they supply 90% of the juice). One is the 'dekang' that heaven gifts, healthcabin, eastmall have - I call that just 'dekang'. The other is the "Janty/Joye juice" - that's also made by Dekang but almost of their flavors are specially formulated either by Dekang and/or by the vendor. IOW, there could be the case where Janty asks for a special formulation and then either Joye or Janty adds something else.

The way one used to be able to tell, imo anyway, and the tastes verified this for me, was that if a vendor didn't carry a Kent, Hilton, Flu Cured and a few others, then it was likely a Janty/Joye juice.

If they did carry those flavors, then it was the 'regular' Dekang juice, and one could expect consistency among both, so that the Janty RY4 (which is quite different than the Dekang Ruyan #4) that is sold by freshsmoking, the Widow and a few other vendors are all the same. Whereas the RY4 or Ruyan#4 sold by HG, HC, EM are also the same (Wayne at HG now has a special formulation for Ruyan#4 and his Cappuccino, but those were fairly recent).

More lately that line is getting blurred. Some vendors that carried only Janty/Joye juice are now carrying some Kent and Hilton. Whether they are sourcing two or more suppliers now or perhaps if Janty/Joye are adding those to their line up, I don't know.

I do know that there were 'bad batches' (not tainted but unusally strong and harsh) of "Dekang" juice that was released with PRD (production) dates somewhere around late May to late August and many vendors in the US were also affected*. I think that is over as far as Dekang is concerned but there may be some vendors that still have that stuff in their inventory. In fact, it is the first thing I checked on a order I had from ecig24 - see the other thread - where there were dirt cheap prices on bigger bottles ($4.68 for 50ml, eg.) - fortunately the juice is good, but it took a month and a half to get here - airmail - the only option given at that time.

*And during those dates, the Janty/Joye line was not affected.

Anyway ;-) ... chances are, unless they are making their own, RMV juice is "Dekang" and it should be just fine. The stuff I've been getting from HG, EM and other Dekang vendors have been fine. Last 3 orders from HG is the 'old' good Dekang juice in Hilton, Kent, Flu Cured, Ruyan#4 and others. But the two before that were - not vape-able for me or the wife - a Hilton fan. Oddly, imo, I had one friend where the difference, although noticed, didn't make a difference. And there were some posting here - wv2win, in particular, that didn't mind the change. It's my opinioin that the harshness was a mistake in the tobacco part of the blending and if so, people that liked that, probably didn't care. But there were many here that did care, but that's just a guess as to what actually happened.

I may have some of the details of story wrong (or missing) but from my emails with varioius vendors and the reports on this that were coming on the forum during that time, tends to lend credence to many of the points above. I know in my (and my wife's and some local friends') personal experience this is exactly what happened.
 

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Is there any significance to a juice bottle having only black ink printed on it. Not a full label? The bottles with just the black ink have been un-vapable, as far as I'm concerned.

Dave

Yes. The Dekang juice prior to the 'bad batch' had only 'scrolling' above and below the name and the level of nic - I just got some of that today! I'm not sure if the change in dekang's labels were coincident with the batch but I just know that the stuff from HG and EM were scroll labels (blue) before and full labels afterwards and the first full labels that had the PRD date were @26 May and were harsh and very perfumy.

With the Janty/Joye juice - you could get a lot of different label types - transparent/black print, another obviously printed out and sometimes with a gray "Janty" label but now all have the PRD dates, purple base label and new tops etc. But all Janty/joye was good juice throughout, imo. If you have any opaque 50ml or greater bottle of Janty/Joye, they do have black labels with a white line top and bottom, name in between, and some of the 30ml bottles that I've seen on the web are that but not the one's I got which were as above. Same 'style' except in transparent labels with black lettering and black lines top and bottom. Some bigger bottles are printed right on the bottle.
 

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I found the Camel juice flavor to be...miserably boring. I tried just about every tobacco flavor I could get my hands on and my favorite quickly became Virginia because of its molasses-sweet tastiness and rich tobacco base. For whatever reason, the one flavor I didn't try before posting this post

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/43530-tobacco-flavor-reviews-n00b.html

was Cuban Cigar. As it turned out, IMO, Cuban Cigar was the absolute closest I have tasted to any analog. The rest seem to be more or less variations (sometimes drastic variations like French Pipe or 555) on the Marlboro basic tobacco flavor. Camel, for example, is like Marlboro with some lawn clippings in it. Unless you were looking for menthol, Cuban is probably as close as you'll get to any brand you used to light on fire and stick in your mouth. Likely closer than the flavor that bears your brands name. But like everyone has already said - it isn't easy to simulate that ash tray flavor - Cuban comes close but...no cigar because it still tastes good.
 

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I have mixed TW Marlboro 18mg with TW vanilla 11mg in a cart using 8 drops of vanilla 3 drops of Marlboro. I was looking for a slight tobacco taste in my vanilla the opposite of what your trying to do. I love it. I also use TW orange(mandarin) 18 mg 7 drops + Marlboro 2 drops + TW vanilla 18 mg 3 drops that is my all day vape. So the answer is yes and finding the right combo for yourself is the fun part. Using a titan 510 :thumb:
 

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I'm so glad you decided to try Cuban Cigar, uzza. Stuff is great.

I do find, however, that like everyone else that's been vaping for a while, that one tends to start out trying to duplicate an analog, but later on start to drift towards other flavors. I'm really into Orange and Apple right now. It's really an adventure. Somebody help me:D But Cuban will always remain one of my favorites.
 

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I'm so glad you decided to try Cuban Cigar, uzza. Stuff is great.

I do find, however, that like everyone else that's been vaping for a while, that one tends to start out trying to duplicate an analog, but later on start to drift towards other flavors. I'm really into Orange and Apple right now. It's really an adventure. Somebody help me:D But Cuban will always remain one of my favorites.


I'm glad too. Thanks for the tip on the Cuban Cigar flavor. I do like a lot of the other flavors too, but some of them are too one-dimensional to last long unless you just love that flavor. Like peach or mint - they seem great at first but for me they lack some kind of enduring complexity, but mixed with eachother and/or a mild tobacco flavor you get something more...I don't know...more something. More better.
 

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If you smoke analogs and vape you'll always be searching to duplicate your brand. Once you vape exclusively the world is your oyster and you'll start to see it like going out to dinner. Sometimes you want steak, sometimes pasta. :)

Yup.

The reason why you won´t get an e-cig to taste like an analog is obvious if you´ve ever quit smoking, then picked it up again. A cigarette tastes like, for lack of a better word, ashes. An e-cig can emulate the actual taste of the tobacco, but not the burnt ashy taste of the cigarette. As a smoker, we´ve become so used to that ashen taste, that we don´t notice it anymore, but it´s there, believe me.
 

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If you smoke analogs and vape you'll always be searching to duplicate your brand. Once you vape exclusively the world is your oyster and you'll start to see it like going out to dinner. Sometimes you want steak, sometimes pasta. :)

And sometimes you want both and mix them together for more vaping goodness like vanilla and orange = dreamsicle
 
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