can anyone explain the difference between regular (2.2-2.4) cartomizers and the LR ones in a way a noob can grasp?

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AlleyKat

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I'm looking to buy my 1st replacement cartos (before the 5 in my starter kit are all used up)....and, well, I'm not sure I understand the difference between the "regular" and the LR versions. Can someone help the noob with a easy explanation of the differences/uses for each?

*I'm sure if I had the time/patience to look through pages of thread I would find this has been addressed before, but I would appreciate a recap please!!
 

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Welcome , depending on what voltage your using . If say your using 3.7 volts , a LR carto , will give you more vapor , maybe some throat hit , and a tad warmer vapor . But It does drain your batteries faster . It sort of , gives you the feeling of vaping at a higher voltage . A SR carto , uses less power from your battery , but gives a little less vapor and such . If the SR are working for you , stay with them , and maybe try one LR atty or carto , just to see for yourself .
 

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I agree with doormouse. In my opinion LR doesn't tell you anything. The actual number of ohms is the only information that counts. If you have a small battery 400mah or less, I wouldn't recommend using less than 2.3 ohms. There is a chance of damaging the battery. There should be some info in your user's manual about the lowest recommend resistance.
 

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You can think of your PV like an electric stove. When you press the button the resistor/heater heats up. More resistance means more friction, more opposition to current or things that flow, thus produces more heat. Therefore, the lower the resistance the more heat is dissipated and more energy/power is consumed. The more heat, the more vapor the liquid produces.

The voltage commonly used in PVs is 3.7V. Most PV users don't have voltage meters and don't have any means to measure them, so they don't normally care. At such voltage, 2.0-3.5 ohm resistances are safely used. Anything higher produces practically no vapor when used with small batteries like penstyles, mini e-cigs, etc. Anything lower will produce unwanted heat and will likely kill such types of batteries. You need bigger batteries with 900 and higher mah ratings for these lower resistances which range from 1 - 1.7 ohms.

Some users buy PVs with variable voltages and higher mah ratings so they can use a wide range of available cartomizers. I don't know if that is the real intention because most of what is available now are the LR/dual coil types anyway. You don't need 6-7V to produce huge volumes of vapors for LRs/dual coils.

Pardon me if I missed something here.
 
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so what ohm would you want for a 4.7-6 volt?

Good question. I have a 3xAA VV box mod for an extra PV. I have no way of trying out 3.0 ohm and higher resistances. Why? Simply because they are not available in the store where I get some stuff from. Most vendors nowadays sell low resistance types. So what I have ranges from 1.5-2.0 ohm resistance cartos, dual coils or not. The highest I have set it on is 4.2V +/-. At this voltage I could hear something is frying. So I normally set it lower, probably 3.7 to 4V. I have no problem with that setting for all of my available cartos.
 

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To answer many questions, I would suggest using an ohms law calculator to figure out what you like. Say for example, you have a 3.7v device, and you love a 1.7 ohms carto (resarector) use an ohms law calc Ohm's Law Calculator and figure out how many watts make what you like, as for this example 8.1 rounded up. If you were vaping higher voltages, say 5v, you would need a 3 ohms cartos/ atty to get the same vape. The lower the resistance, the easy it is to "Pop" them at higher voltages, so keep that in mind
 

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Two of my Ego batteries died using low resistance cartos. At least that's what I suspected. Mind you these are bigger batteries than 510s.

when i used standard resistance atomizer with my 510-T..it last and last 8 months later it is worned out..but eGo batteries i use LR atomizer..my eGo batteries only lasted 4-5 months as i work backward and calculate the no of times i charged my batteries..510-T nearly 250 times..but eGo is less than 100 and completely worn or conked out..take it as in "wear & tear" in usage..so LR carto/atty do drain yr batteries life,my conclusion..so make sure U have backups & always buy in starter kit format a lot cheaper than individual pcs..regards mafig
 

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eGo batteries seem to have varying life spans. I'm using ( and have been for months) Boge LR cartos all day long on my eGo batts and these batts are both over a year old. I have one eGo batt that is 1 1/2 years old and it still lights up the Boge cartos just fine.

The weak spot in an eGo batt is the MOSFET controller/regulator that controls the output voltage to 3.4v throughout the vape. These were designed for standard resistance atomizers.

You can think of atomizer resistance like you do with various wattages in incandescent light bulbs. At the same voltage, a 100 watt light bulb puts out more light (and heat) than a higher resistance 60 watt bulb. A LR atty creates more heat (wattage) and provides more vapor than a standard resistance (2.5-3.5 ohms) atty.

eGo and Riva batteries will do just fine for LR atties, but dual coils may be a little too much for these batteries. Dual coils work much better on mods with 14500 or 18650 batts that can supply more power for a longer period. Variable voltage also lets you dial in the sweet spot for the optimum vape.
 

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eGo batteries seem to have varying life spans. I'm using ( and have been for months) Boge LR cartos all day long on my eGo batts and these batts are both over a year old. I have one eGo batt that is 1 1/2 years old and it still lights up the Boge cartos just fine.

The weak spot in an eGo batt is the MOSFET controller/regulator that controls the output voltage to 3.4v throughout the vape. These were designed for standard resistance atomizers.

You can think of atomizer resistance like you do with various wattages in incandescent light bulbs. At the same voltage, a 100 watt light bulb puts out more light (and heat) than a higher resistance 60 watt bulb. A LR atty creates more heat (wattage) and provides more vapor than a standard resistance (2.5-3.5 ohms) atty.

eGo and Riva batteries will do just fine for LR atties, but dual coils may be a little too much for these batteries. Dual coils work much better on mods with 14500 or 18650 batts that can supply more power for a longer period. Variable voltage also lets you dial in the sweet spot for the optimum vape.

To revive an older thread with a bit of warning. The other in my life (not sure the "s" fits here) has continued smoking after she talked me into buying PVs going on three years. She's occasionally use one, normally when she couldn't smoke, but never really tried to quit. Lately she's made a concerted effort and I loaded her up with 510 equipment and juice.

She quickly wanted something more powerful and I had a Tornado tank with two batteries and felt that would save her the battery maintenance step. All was kind of good for a week or so. I had a T-Tank that I'd used for a couple years that still functioned well for its age. Then she went to her sisters.

Her sister and her bf had followed my lead and started vaping. He must have gotten some variable output device and was using a 3.5ml Dual Coil Cartomizer Tank. He had extra tank cartos so he gave one to her. She came home this weekend all excited with her new acquisition. She was smoking it like a real cig, no primer puff, just a lot of vapor. It was Saturday, I was tired and just said nice and she went away. Until last night.

Bottom line is that both the Tornado batteries were killed and I was spending all morning learning how, or potentially how. These weren't new batteries, but weren't showing signs of dying. They held their charge well throughout the day and I know she was living her day puffing away. However they did have their share of charges on them so I don't know how long new ones might have lasted.

I was forced to pull out my brand new Screwdriver still in the box and set her up with the tank on it. I really don't know what to expect the atty life to be, but at full charge on the SD batteries at about 4.2 volts on a 1.5 amp atty, it's throwing 2.8 amps of current through it so who knows how long the atty will last. I know at 11.75 watts, it sizzles on a puff.

This could get expensive.
 
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