Can someone explain or have theories why in rebuildables they require more power to.....

[flexsr]

To get a satisfying vape. Lr 306 1.5 ohm at 3.7 volts hit like a freight train! To get the same vape to me i have to go down to .7 ohms at same voltage to get the same satisfying vape.

Why does it seem like you need more power to get the same vape from a non rebuildable.

Now this completely just could be me cause i ordered a bunch of juice from my vendor and it doesnt even taste half as strong as i ordered. Ordered 32 mg and feels like air. So this thread could be entirely just me and a bad batch of juice. But if others noticed the same thing please give me your thoughts.

 

[beckdg]

thicker gauge wire resists heat better by way of 2 properties. one is physical and one is electrically inherent by it's physical property. the wire is thicker thus has more material for the same heat to penetrate and radiate. it also has a lower resistance thus produces less heat to begin with.

these properties also translate to a longer heat up time.

vaporization via coils is temperature dependent.

 

[Funk Dracula]

All I know is that a single twisted 28g micro coil measuring .6Ω is my Unicorn, has been for months now, and Bob's your uncle.

 

[flexsr]

I lost ya a littke beckdg - thanks you for your input though.

I hear ya on 28 gauge at .6 to ! I got some 24 gauge vapemail today from thinking more wraps would mean more surface area and flavor. Was worried about the heat up time but it wasn't bad at all on startup. 27 might be ideal on my next order after i pillage through 300 ft of wire i have left. Maybe i can tie up my uncle bob with all that wire -

Hey any tips on wrapping the 28 to get it to .6 ? I either have to wrap at .055 if i want to have 8 wraps etc and thus use tiniest wick which breaks off or get burnt taste often. If i go bigger diameter seems like only 4 wraps will get me to .6 ohms - seems i suffering on surface area. Hook a brotha up with some tips to get a nice 28 gauge wire at .6 vaping good

 

[Lazythekidd]

I run dual 28 nanos @.6 and love it haven't used a single coil in over a week, and I love my single coils. And if u have a drill a twisted 28 will give u sub ohms

C.R.E.A.M Custard Rules Everything Around Me

 

[tj99959]

Oh, I don't know, I always used 1.7 ohm atomizers back in the day. Now I wrap my coils at 2.2 ohms to get the same great vape.

 

[crxess]

I think you are talking about 2 different subjects.

If your Juice is 32mg and feels like air - likely it is and they missed the Nic.

More power needed is normally due to thicker wire. Takes more power to get things heating up as quick.

 

[beckdg]

I lost ya a littke beckdg - thanks you for your input though.

think of a wire as a room.
think of the power as a measure of BTU (like a heater).

say you have a 150,000 BTU heater and 2 places to put it.

place one is an efficiency apartment.
place two is that massive house on the top of the hill.

at the same token, you have a regulated mod that's stuck on 15 watts with 2 coils/heads to put on it.

head one is built with 36 gauge nichrome @ 1Ω.
head two is built with 24 gauge kanthal @ 1Ω.

these two examples both pretty much represent the same scenarios as far as heat is concerned.

head one and home one are going to be overloaded pretty much as soon as power is applied.
head two and home two may not ever get to an acceptable temp.

there simply isn't enough area in head one and home one to disperse such heat intensity.
there's simply too much area in head two and home two for the same heat output to be sufficient for optimal use.

factory heads commonly come built with something similar to head one.
people often build rebuildables closer to head #2.

 

[Land0Calrissian]

That's one of my favorite builds to use too. You don't kill juice and still get the same satisfaction. Cloud chasing is cool and all (for showing off or whatever hahaha) but for my daily I use the single.

Suggestion if you like that; try a parallel coil build with 28 gauge, 4 parallel wraps mine comes out to .57 or so, and its noyce

All I know is that a single twisted 28g micro coil measuring .6Ω is my Unicorn, has been for months now, and Bob's your uncle.

 

[flexsr]

I think I follow you beck --- I realized I didn't proof read my original post to best of my ability : just to reiterate : 1.5 or 1.7 ohm factory lr 306 atty was giving me satisfying vaping at 3.7 volts - however when I use Rebuildables at the same voltage my resistance (and hence power goes up cause volts are the same) must be like .7 ohms or lower to get same satisfying vape as a factory 1.5-1.7 ohm atty at the same voltage - both on mech mods - Thanks for the time and effort back - I am going to re read your second post and analogy a few more times - I'm just slow on this or didn't explain myself in original post - but I'm definitely gonna read few more times especially if you took time to explain to me :::

My one an only theory I can think of that just popped into my head now is since I use a reo the wick is and coil is always completely saturated Im juice just reducing some of the power ---

Thanks beck

To other poster - I apologize I forget name n on my phone - that's weird to me that 2.2 ohm rebuildable satisfies you more or equal (I forget the exact numbers) than a 1.8 ohm rebuildable --- so maybe all in all it's just an individual variant ---

Thanks again beck for extended time you took to provide your belief/answe/opinion -

Much appreciated all

 

[crxess]

Just a little note

28ga. Wire - surface area is the same whether it is one Big loop or 8 tiny loops. Suffering lacking surface area is a mental thing.