Can't decide what battery to choose for IPV4s.

[Matty316]

Just ordered my IPV4s from Gearbest and have decided to get some new batteries for it. Trouble is I can't decide what batteries to get. So was hoping maybe someone with more knowledge like Mooch or Baditude could help me out.

I've already decided to get a pair of sony vtc4's for when I feel like running a high watt build. But I'm looking for another set for running my everyday builds which run between 30 and 50 watts. My first thoughts go to samsung 25r's. I already use these and have been very happy with their performance but I've been looking at the LG hg2. The extra capacity is the main reason I'm thinking of these while sill having a 20a CDR.

So I guess my question is for in the 30 to 50 watt range would you go with the hg2 or the 25r?

 

[Bunnykiller]

I like the Subohmcell brand... been using them in my ipv4 for a while now and they last about 2 days at 30ish watts @ 4.7V

 

[woodhippy]

Read this blog

(12) Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries - Part I | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Matty316]

Read this blog

(12) Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries - Part I | E-Cigarette Forum

Thanks for the link it's a good read but is aimed more at mech mod users and is more a general overview of differant types batteries.

 

[IMFire3605]

I've been seeing Mooch suggesting the HG2 lately if you are in a certain range of watts, and you are well under the limit he posts, so if you are looking for the extra mah, it is a good cell for the purpose you are going to use it for at under 15amp limit

 

[Matty316]

I've been seeing Mooch suggesting the HG2 lately if you are in a certain range of watts, and you are well under the limit he posts, so if you are looking for the extra mah, it is a good cell for the purpose you are going to use it for at under 15amp limit

Thanks for the info.
I've been having a play with steamengine. I set the AVP efficiency to 95% which is about what the IPV4s is I think. Then I checked what the amp draw was right down to 3.3v at 50 watts and at 3.3v it showed I would be drawing 15.95 amps which still gives me 4.05 amps headroom when using the HG2. Of course that headroom will become smaller as the batteries age and lose some capacity so I may not push them quite as high as 50 watts when they start getting to lower voltage.

 

[papergoblin]

Before I sold my IPV3, I ran efest 2500mah 35a (20 amp) batteries. The board is handling the load so its not as much an issue like with mechs but I would use at least a 20a cell.

Also don't use the pair in anything else or separately. Keeps everything equal, helps batteries last longer and better for the mod too.

 

[Mooch]

Just ordered my IPV4s from Gearbest and have decided to get some new batteries for it. Trouble is I can't decide what batteries to get. So was hoping maybe someone with more knowledge like Mooch or Baditude could help me out.

I've already decided to get a pair of sony vtc4's for when I feel like running a high watt build. But I'm looking for another set for running my everyday builds which run between 30 and 50 watts. My first thoughts go to samsung 25r's. I already use these and have been very happy with their performance but I've been looking at the LG hg2. The extra capacity is the main reason I'm thinking of these while sill having a 20a CDR.

So I guess my question is for in the 30 to 50 watt range would you go with the hg2 or the 25r?

At 50W, I'd pick the HG2 and enjoy the extra run time versus the 25R.
It's not a huge difference, but it's there.

 

[Darkstarncw]

Depending on what I run, I can kill off a pair of 25Rs in less than a day of vaping on an IPV4. It doesn't matter much to me as the IPV4 is my "at work" mod, but if I am out all day long and forget to bring another mod or a second pair of batteries, it can get a bit hairy.

 

[dc99]

I run the HG2 for everyday vaping, If Im playing with the smok tfv4 tank I use the HD2. They wont last all day but they wont overheat either. Better safe than sorry

 

[Hans Wermhat]

I use the VTC4's. I go through 2 sets a day and that's very tolerable. I don't think a few extra mAh's would be enough to make one set last all day for me, so I just use the VTC4's exclusively. They are overkill for my Nautilus, but they are already in my mod when I switch over the the CLT @ 80 - 100W. It's just simpler for me.

 

[Baditude]

According to Mooch's advice, and I concur:

If using a high wattage regulated mod, use a 20 - 30 amp CDR IMR battery, which ever your mod's manufacturer recommends. The processor's amp limit determines the amp requirement in this application, not the atomizer resistance:

75W or higher, we recommend the Sony VTC4 2100 mah 30 amp CDR.

40W-75W = LG 18650HG2 3000 mah 20 amp

Samsung 18650-25R 2500 mah 20 amp, green wrap if you can, blue wrap is just fine.
LG 18650HE2 2500 mah 20 Amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5 2600mAh 30Amp CDR (* tested as only a 20 amp CDR)
AW 18650 3000 mah 20 amp CDR (may be a re-wrapped HG2)​

Under 40W = LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20Amp CDR

Samsung INR18650-30Q 3000mah 15Amp CDR
AW 18650 3000mah 20 Amp CDR​

 

[kkiet]

Go with the HG2's

 

[thomas l]

LG 18650HG2

 

[Matty316]

Thanks for the help guys I'm going to go with the HG2. Going to order them tomorrow.

 

[tjeco]

Just ordered my IPV4s from Gearbest and have decided to get some new batteries for it. Trouble is I can't decide what batteries to get. So was hoping maybe someone with more knowledge like Mooch or Baditude could help me out.

I've already decided to get a pair of sony vtc4's for when I feel like running a high watt build. But I'm looking for another set for running my everyday builds which run between 30 and 50 watts. My first thoughts go to samsung 25r's. I already use these and have been very happy with their performance but I've been looking at the LG hg2. The extra capacity is the main reason I'm thinking of these while sill having a 20a CDR.

So I guess my question is for in the 30 to 50 watt range would you go with the hg2 or the 25r?

Just get some AWT 40A and you're set.

 

[Mooch]

Just get some AWT 40A and you're set.

Both of those batteries only rated to 20A in my tests, one half what AWT said they were. And that pisses me off.
They might be ok at 20A but the HG2 will last longer.

AWT Purple 40A 2600mAh 18650 Bench Test Results...only 20A/2500mAh, might be a 25R2 | E-Cigarette Forum

AWT Yellow 40A 2600mAh 18650 Bench Test Results...only a 20A battery | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[tjeco]

Both of those batteries only rated to 20A in my tests, one half what AWT said they were. And that pisses me off.
They might be ok at 20A but the HG2 will last longer.

AWT Purple 40A 2600mAh 18650 Bench Test Results...only 20A/2500mAh, might be a 25R2 | E-Cigarette Forum

AWT Yellow 40A 2600mAh 18650 Bench Test Results...only a 20A battery | E-Cigarette Forum

Yep, the HG2 is better but that thing is hard to find..

 

[Mooch]

Yep, the HG2 is better but that thing is hard to find..

It's a very popular battery these days.