Carto tank on a mech?

[Dzaw]

Ok - so I'm pretty sure a low res carto on a mech would perform pretty well until the batt dipped below, say, 3.7V. Would a kick help me get an all day vape out of a 2100 mAh 18650 using a 2 ohm carto?

I like the idea of a kayfun style atty for while I'm about the house, but I spend hours at a time on the road, and the capacity, convenience, and " fuss free" nature of a carto tank is really hard to beat for vaping behind the wheel.

also, any suggestions on a good mech that can handle an 18650 with a kick. Hopefully non telescoping?

 

[volume control]

I use a mech without a kick and LR boge cartos in an ibtanked and it lasts me all day and works great. I don't know of a non tele but I know the tele Private V2(FT clone) will handle 18650+kick

 

[Dzaw]

That's good news. Thanks. I'll look into the private v2 clone, but I'm generally turned off by the appearance of most telescopic.

 

[NicoHolic]

IMO, you probably don't need a kick to go all day with a 2000 mAH AW IMR 18650 in a mech. Until I got the Sophia, I used cartos in my IBTanked carto tanks. Cartos are okay, and IMO better than clearomizers, but not up to RBAs. However, nothing leaves my house except a REO Grand with 18650 and 6 ml bottle, with a Reomizer 2 RDA. 15-16 hours of power and juice in a tiny package smaller than a pack of smokes.

 

[Ryan1888]

I have used a 2ohm carto on a mech before. Works pretty well and battery life is superior to say a 1ohm build in a kayfun.
It can be done and you will get a satisfying enough vape, however there is a lot more to be had with even a rebuilt protank.

As for mod - I have used the EA mod in 18650 mode with a carto tank in the past, with no issues.

 

[Baditude]

You can get an AltSmoke Silver Bullet with a Kick extension sleeve to run an 18650 IMR battery with a Kick.

Silver Bullet $85
Extension sleeve $25
Kick2 $45
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total $155

After spending all of that, for just $5 more you could have a Provari and have regulated variable voltage, and a built-in voltage & ohm meter with an LED display.

 

[Ryan1888]

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You can get an AltSmoke Silver Bullet with a Kick extension sleeve to run an 18650 IMR battery with a Kick.

Silver Bullet $85
Extension sleeve $25
Kick2 $45
______________

total $155

After spending all of that, for just $5 more you could have a Provari and have regulated variable voltage, and a built-in voltage & ohm meter with an LED display.

Always loved the simplistic look of the SB. Excited for the SB2.

 

[Baditude]

Always loved the simplistic look of the SB. Excited for the SB2.

 

[VaPreis]

My wife bought me a Nemesis clone for Christmas, which is non-telescopic and can run a kick with an 18650.

I'm waiting for a Kayfun Lite to show up in the vape mail, but until then, I've been running a Protank II on it with a kicked 18650.

I'm getting a full day of vaping and then some with a 2000mah 18650 and kick module. I've enjoyed the kick so much, I may just leave it there when the Kayfun shows up.

 

[WileECoyote]

Silly question, what is a kick?

 

[Baditude]

Silly question, what is a kick?

The vape experience of a mechanical mod is completely dependent upon the voltage delivered by the battery. Since the battery voltage drops from a full charge of 4.2 volts down to 3.5 volts, the vaping experience will be at optimum when the battery is first put into the mod, and will be downhill until the battery is discharged to where it will no longer fire the heating coil. This is called un-regulated vaping.

The Kick from Evolv is boosted power regulation in the form of a drop-in module designed to be used in various mechanical mods with IMR (high drain) batteries. A mini computer circuit monitors the battery's natural drop in voltage during use, and adjusts the battery output to remain constant to the setting that the user sets. This results in a consistant vaping experience from the beginning of the fully charged battery until the battery is drained.

This essentially turns a mechanical mod into a regulated variable wattage battery device. The Kick also has built-in protection circuits like a regulated (VV/VW) mod has.

 

[WileECoyote]

Thanks! Great explanation. So I don't need one of these.

 

[Funk Dracula]

You can get an AltSmoke Silver Bullet with a Kick extension sleeve to run an 18650 IMR battery with a Kick.

Silver Bullet $85
Extension sleeve $25
Kick2 $45
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total $155

Budget version;

Nemesis clone $30
Kick 2 $45

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total $75.00

Ability to vape his Kayfun well above 30 watts if he wants, and compatibility with future 18mm drop in regulation modules (kick 3, kick 4 etc) = priceless

 

[Dzaw]

Ok, wow... That's a lot to absorb. Great info, thanks !

Wile e, a kick is a little electronic module that you put inside the body of an unregulated mod that gives you some power regulation. This gives you the ability, for example, to have the vapor quality not degrade overmuch as the battery drains. It also can be used to turn up the power output a bit from just the raw voltage.

Since the nemesis can fit both, I'll probably go that route. Both looks great, and is a known performer. Personally, I'm thinking RDA (trident clone, probably) at the desk, kayfun clone for around the house, and short car trips, and a couple of carto tanks, and a kick for longer trips.

I was really thinking provari for awhile, but I like the almost infinite service life of a true mechanical. I'm both upgrading from my current vamo, as well as prepping for vapocalypse. Kanthal wire isn't going anywhere anytime soon, it's used in too many other applications. Same with cotton. High output batteries are a growing technology, are also used in a variety of non related fields, and so I have a hard time believing they'd be part of any ban or regulation. This is also true of pg, vg, and flavorings. Leaving only nic that I'd have to stock up on. Nude nicotine makes that real simple, with argon sealed 100 mg juice.

 

[Baditude]

I was really thinking provari for awhile, but I like the almost infinite service life of a true mechanical.

I consider a Provari to have an infinite life just like a mechanical. It's build is every bit as durable as any mechanical mod. Considering that Provape will service a Provari for as long as you own the mod, it will last as long as you want it to.

 

[Dzaw]

I consider a Provari to have an infinite life just like a mechanical. It's build is every bit as durable as any mechanical mod. Considering that Provape will service a Provari for as long as you own the mod, it will last as long as you want it to.thus it will last as long as you want it to

Until the FDA issues a deeming regulation eliminating mods with removable batteries, and a batt capacity over a certain laughable limit, and limiting voltage output while they're at it, thus slaughtering pro vapes current business model, and putting them out of business...

With a mechanical, I have the requisite skillset to fix just about any foreseeable issue. Heck, I've considered just building one myself, but for the price of a good clone, saving all the effort that would be required to craft a comparably professional product really appeals to my lazier side.

Like I said, partially prepping for vapocalypse.

 

[Ryan1888]

I can attest to the durability and longevity of the provari. I had dropped mine on countless occasions, on multiple different surfaces and it still performs like new. Truly built like a tank.