Catskill mountain vapor stores' Extracted tobacco, Finally tried it, again......

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There are my unedited comments. Who did I call an idiot?

the only people im referring to .... buddies is the same people who are reviewing the juices for him..clearly the guy has no reviews on anything and that gives him the more reason to ask his buddies to write reviews because no one will try his nasty juice. everyone has their own assumptions You're getting offended because you're putting yourself in the .... buddy category. I dont know what to tell you man im sorry i guess dont let me be the reason that your whole day is upside down now
 
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No one said you are a '.... buddy'
No one said everybody at Vapors palace is a '.... buddy'
You said yourself you have never bought juice from Richard
You called another poster an idiot

Kinda strange you jump in here all defensive. Quite suspect if I may say.
Oh btw, no one gets to far here trying to defend catskill vapors in any way.

you my friend deserve a :toast:
 

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Though this vendor says it is a "maceration," I am thinking this is another case of too much Tobacco Absolute. Green? Floating sediment?

If this is anything like you experienced,
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that is a heavy hand of Tobacco Absolute which is not the same thing as "maceration." This is not my image, but it was taken from similar experiences from a vendor that was selling a "tobacco extract" juice. Technically, TA is an extract (I won't get into the differences), but TA is cheap (in taste and cost) and does a disservice in the conflating of terms to vendors like QuickNic, My Vape Juice, GoodeJuice, Want2Vape, Mountain Oak Vapor, The Plume Room, HouseofLiquids and Vaperite who do bang-up jobs on maceration (that is not the extent of NET vendors, but those are some of the maceration vendors).

As an aside, with the new(er) vendor Velvet Cloud Vapor who makes their own Tobacco Absolute in-house from more quality tobacco and with more discernible tastes, I can't say that all TA is the same, but unless we're talking about VCV, all TA is the same.

As an aside, to see what a good use of regular TA can be, not just from a vendor that makes in-house, but that uses standard TA, see Mom and Pops Tobacco Haze or Moondrop's Smith Barn Sticks. They did not just throw some TA in PG/VG but the used it in a very creative way to make a juice that had some semblance of TA and a whole lot of other character. Some ingredients, like TA, ain't meant to go solo.
 
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Here are the photos, WOW, I didnt think this post would turn into a school yard brawl

I hope that bickering part is over.

But onto that, uhh, I guess you could call it "eliquid?" :shock: That looks like some terrible stuff. I hope people seeing this don't think that's what to expect from NETs! :ohmy: That is TERRIBLE. You notice how oily it looks? That is a sign of Tobacco Absolute. But that is sooooooooooo dark I imagine they did some other silly stuff as well. I have had just about every NET that is not hiding in some corner out there and I have never, ever had a juice that looked like that! Not. Even. Close.
 

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yeah the bickering is over sorry about that guys.

But that green is a red flag to me. usually when you use cheap product and isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) to extract the oils that's the end product. it looks too familiar to let it pass by me. im most certain that it was very bad product with a isopropyl extraction. But I might be wrong. Another way for it to be green is when he uses the same product over and over again and the plants chlorophyll becomes weak and is then extracted after numerous times therefore it turns green
 

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Not to poke fun of someones condition but when the owner is blind how exactly are they expected to perform good quality control on any of their products?

"This ViVi Nova has a hairline crack in it can you see that?"

That alone would make me hesitant to purchase from this vendor.

Just saying.
 

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there are options for a reason because the customer gets to choose how he/she wants their juice to their liking. who in their right mind would ever call the customer and tell them no you should make it this way because I recommend it at this ratio....bro, dude, brotha..... you're trippin!! I chose those options for a reason
 

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Not to poke fun of someones condition but when the owner is blind how exactly are they expected to perform good quality control on any of their products?

"This ViVi Nova has a hairline crack in it can you see that?"

That alone would make me hesitant to purchase from this vendor.

Just saying.

I agree! there is no way I would ever run a business the way he is. And he had the balls to try and clone bobas bounty and gorilla juice..
 

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there are options for a reason because the customer gets to choose how he/she wants their juice to their liking. who in their right mind would ever call the customer and tell them no you should make it this way because I recommend it at this ratio....bro, dude, brotha..... you're trippin!! I chose those options for a reason

I hear ya.

I tried a new vendor out a few months back who mistakenly thought I was new to all of this and they tried to tell me that the juice blend I picked (30/70) wouldnt work well in my carto tank when Ive been using a 10/90 blend for 2 years or more on and off just fine.

I politely told them thank you and will never do business with them again.

If anything their 30/70 blend was a little too thin for my dual hole laser-punched Smoktechs. ....maybe they were used to using less absorbent Boges....I dunno.
 

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I hear ya.

I tried a new vendor out a few months back who mistakenly thought I was new to all of this and they tried to tell me that the juice blend I picked (30/70) wouldnt work well in my carto tank when Ive been using a 10/90 blend for 2 years or more on and off just fine.

I politely told them thank you and will never do business with them again.

If anything their 30/70 blend was a little too thin for my dual hole laser-punched Smoktechs. ....maybe they were used to using less absorbent Boges....I dunno.
:facepalm: you're joking..I don't understand these vendors i really don't
 

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yeah the bickering is over sorry about that guys.

But that green is a red flag to me. usually when you use cheap product and isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) to extract the oils that's the end product. it looks too familiar to let it pass by me. im most certain that it was very bad product with a isopropyl extraction. But I might be wrong. Another way for it to be green is when he uses the same product over and over again and the plants chlorophyll becomes weak and is then extracted after numerous times therefore it turns green

That seems like it. I would never in a million years think a vendor would sell something like that.
 

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Here are the photos, WOW, I didnt think this post would turn into a school yard brawl


Absolutely not your fault Anavidfan.

Reviews of e-liquids good or bad are perfectly acceptable. That's why we have the review forum. :)

Comments should stick the e-liquid you're reviewing. That shouldn't be a problem for a bunch of adults.
 

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That seems like it. I would never in a million years think a vendor would sell something like that.


Yeah it sucks but believe it. If you look at the photo I posted, you'll see similarities of the OP's photos compared to mine. Im almost positive, that he did not use dried tobacco. A leaf that turns brown means it has been cured and the sugar enymes have been released giving it that brown color and also thats when the smell and taste start to shine. Im just not pulling this out of my ...., I have been extracting herbs and spices for over 7 years I have used every type of chemical/gas to extract oils from plant materials to make concentrates for desserts, lotions, food, incense etc... (grandma is from thailand so she has educated me about herb extracts and how to use them and for what) and plus its very fun because as you go along you get better and better and To see the end product is pretty cool lol

or hes just lazy and uses fresh tobacco leaf instead of waiting for it to dry. thats why the juice is green because the sugars and chlorophyll have not been broken down so you get nothing but nasty grass tasting juice
 
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