"chain" vaping..could it be hurting me?

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4th day of being analog free, thanks to a special friend. Within the first 24 hours, i realized i hadnt used my asthma inhaler at all (usually use it 3 times a day), and have not used it since.

Surprisingly, no major withdrawel symptoms, thought I would be going nuts. Morning cough seemed almost completely gone on the second day, which i thought was too soon. None of my common daily heart palpitations since vaping either.

Now I was a heavy smoker, 2 to 3 packs a day. Thus im vaping constantly. 3rd day, cough came back.... my lungs almost feel as if im still smoking analogs and chained about 80 in a row, lungs feel very heavy, and a bit tender....mouth is dry and tastes funny. Should i be worried?
 

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First off, I'm not a doctor so it might be wise to go see one.

What this sounds like is the healing process has started. You should start coughing up some really yulky stuff and will have a dull ache to the chest as new & healthy tissue comes back. Might get a pimple or two.8-o
Ever got burned and remember how touchy your new skin was?
Anyway, it might be wise to try and cut back for a bit while this is going on. It should get better though.
If it doesn't get better (or even a lot worse) you might have an allergy to PG. Try some VG.
 
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You should be fine. Give it another week or so and see how you feel. Your body will take time to get rid of all that crud in your lungs from analogs. The funny taste in your mouth is probably from the PG. You get used to it, and to this day I still get occasional sore throat if I vape too much. Key is to drink plenty of water. It helps with more than just getting rid of the toxins and dry throat. It took me about 2 weeks to start feeling the full effects of not smoking cigarettes.
 

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It hit me on the 3rd or 4th day..well night really. I woke up in the middle of the night, coughly uncontrolably. I felt like I wasn't getting any air at all. I too had heart palpations while being a smoker. After the first week, I havn't had any more coughing fits, and the heart palps barely happen at all. its your body coming back to life...and its not too happy about the sludge it has to get rid of. you will be alright right. lots of water!
 

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I don't really chain vape. I try to vape about as much as I used to smoke. But last night I went to a party and had a few drinks. I vaped more than usual. By the end of the night, I had the same kind of heavy lung sensation as I used to get when I smoked too much while drinking. However, I did not feel that "lungover" feeling this morning, so at least the damage seemed to be less with too much vaping vs. too much smoking.
 

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A couple days after getting off analogs and solely vaping, my chest felt like it filled up with phlegm. It was heavy and tight and I was coughing more often than I did while I was smoking. I won't even describe "what" I was coughing up...all you former smokers already know.
Anywhoo, It took a little while to clear out my lungs from all the damage that was done to them over the years. It's normal...

What I would watch is chain vaping too high a mg. You didn't say what mg your using. Just keep in mind that if your vaping 24mg strength and you use, say, 2ml a day you are actually taking in 48mg (which is too high and can make you very ill). Or if you use 2ml of 18mg/day, your actually vaping 36mg (still high for most). It's 6,12,16,18,24,or 36mg PER ML, not bottle. The more you vape the lower the mg you should use.

Dry mouth is very normal, drink alot of water when you vape. And I, too, haven't had a heart palpitation since quitting analogs either :)
 

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A couple days after getting off analogs and solely vaping, my chest felt like it filled up with phlegm. It was heavy and tight and I was coughing more often than I did while I was smoking. I won't even describe "what" I was coughing up...all you former smokers already know.
Anywhoo, It took a little while to clear out my lungs from all the damage that was done to them over the years. It's normal...

What I would watch is chain vaping too high a mg. You didn't say what mg your using. Just keep in mind that if your vaping 24mg strength and you use, say, 2ml a day you are actually taking in 48mg (which is too high and can make you very ill). Or if you use 2ml of 18mg/day, your actually vaping 36mg (still high for most). It's 6,12,16,18,24,or 36mg PER ML, not bottle. The more you vape the lower the mg you should use.

Dry mouth is very normal, drink alot of water when you vape. And I, too, haven't had a heart palpitation since quitting analogs either :)

With each cig you smoke, you absorb about 1-2mg of nicotine into your body. She says she smoked 2-3 packs per day, so lets average that to 2.5 packs per day and assume she smoked lights @ 1mg per cig. Thats 50mg of nic per day absorbed into her body.

Now take into account that vaping has a lower absorption rate than smoking, and 2ml of 24 mg would at best give you 16-20mg of nic per day. Thats a big drop and probably would not satisfy her.

I also smoked 2-3 packs of lights per day. 3ml of 36mg does a decent job at keeping the cravings away and the analogs out of my hand, but I still smoke the occasional cig and still find it very satisfying. I started off trying 24mg and I couldn't chain vape enough to satisfy me.

If anything, considering she says she is chain vaping so much, I would recommend an increase in nicotine strength. It may do more to satisfy her cravings and allow her to put the PV down on occasion.
 

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With each cig you smoke, you absorb about 1-2mg of nicotine into your body. She says she smoked 2-3 packs per day, so lets average that to 2.5 packs per day and assume she smoked lights @ 1mg per cig. Thats 50mg of nic per day absorbed into her body.

Now take into account that vaping has a lower absorption rate than smoking, and 2ml of 24 mg would at best give you 16-20mg of nic per day. Thats a big drop and probably would not satisfy her.

I also smoked 2-3 packs of lights per day. 3ml of 36mg does a decent job at keeping the cravings away and the analogs out of my hand, but I still smoke the occasional cig and still find it very satisfying. I started off trying 24mg and I couldn't chain vape enough to satisfy me.

If anything, considering she says she is chain vaping so much, I would recommend an increase in nicotine strength. It may do more to satisfy her cravings and allow her to put the PV down on occasion.

The cravings that she is having right now are not coming from nicotine...that part is taken care of. The cravings are coming from the other chemicals you get addicted to while smoking that are not present in E-juice. Increasing the MG will not help.
 

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You should be fine. Give it another week or so and see how you feel. Your body will take time to get rid of all that crud in your lungs from analogs. The funny taste in your mouth is probably from the PG. You get used to it, and to this day I still get occasional sore throat if I vape too much. Key is to drink plenty of water. It helps with more than just getting rid of the toxins and dry throat. It took me about 2 weeks to start feeling the full effects of not smoking cigarettes.

I noticed that "funny taste in my mouth" I figured it was from the PG. Much better than the crappy taste in my mouth from analogs.
 

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The cravings that she is having right now are not coming from nicotine...that part is taken care of. The cravings are coming from the other chemicals you get addicted to while smoking that are not present in E-juice. Increasing the MG will not help.


That's not good advice, as the OP was a heavy smoker she could easily do 100+ mg of e-liquid type nicotine and not have problems. A bit less if she smoked light cigarettes. Upping the nicotine level will allow her to set the PV down on occasion.

You may want to read DVap's blog to get a better idea of what's going on. In fact I would suggest reading all his blogs as he's among the smarter ones on this forum and has done lots of research on PV's.

The heaviness in the lungs is likely just your system doing a bit of house cleaning. Give it a little time and it should clear up. Using a higher nicotine liquid could also help as you could get by with vaping less.
 

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The cravings that she is having right now are not coming from nicotine...that part is taken care of. The cravings are coming from the other chemicals you get addicted to while smoking that are not present in E-juice. Increasing the MG will not help.

You are missing my point. Without knowing how much nicotine she is taking in right now, you have no idea if her cravings for nicotine are taken care of. Yes, you have some cravings from the other chemicals in cigarettes, I don't dispute that, but most of the cravings are nicotine related. I have read a lot of people say, myself included, that increasing their intake of nicotine helped tremendously in their cravings.

Some people simply gain a higher addiction to nicotine than others. My mother smoked 3-4 packs a day, and she is happily vaping 24mg without a desire for an analog. If I vape 24mg I'm going to be in a very bad mood and have some severe cravings that 36mg helps a lot.

I once got a DUI and spent a day and a half in jail. During that time I went through major withdraws. I had the chills but was sweating badly, stomach ache, head ache, and by the end of that day and a half I wanted a cigarette so badly that I was actually thinking maybe I could chew on my wrist, not enough to kill me or anything, but maybe enough that I would need medical attention and they would feel sorry enough for me to let me smoke a cigarette. I'm glad I got out when I did, because that logic actually made sense to me and I was very close to trying it. That is a severe addiction.

My point is this. If someone is having cravings, or chain vaping and wants to slow down, increasing nic strength is not going to hurt. If they feel themselves getting sick, they will simply quit vaping that much nic and they can cut it down, sell it, give it away, whatever, but you don't hurt anything by trying. Personally I'm glad I decided to try 36mg, or I would have given up on e-cigs and would still be smoking 2-3 packs a day of analogs.
 

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Too bad you didn't get a physical first with a chest x-ray as a base line. This should be done with any major physical life style changes. I'm not a doctor either , but, then again none of the other posters are either. Being better safe than sorry though, at least a real doctor would have something to go on if you started feeling uncomfortable about what's going on with your body. You didn't say how long you have smoked, remember it took your body awhile to get in the condition it's in, it'll take awhile to fix itself. I smoked 2 packs a day for 32 years, the first 10 years were non-filtered cigarettes, then because I was tired of hearing my doctor's mantra about quitting I switched to filters, then finally to lights about 15 years ago. While I did not go through withdrawls when I first started vaping, I have expelled some nasty stuff from my lungs, suffered a rash or two and my voice has changed from my vocal cords loosening up. Still if you have any concerns at all, this is not the place for medical advice, SEE YOUR DOCTOR. Just don't let him try to put you on Chantrix - bad stuff. I do agree with everyone here though, keep hydrated.
 

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That's not good advice, as the OP was a heavy smoker she could easily do 100+ mg of e-liquid type nicotine and not have problems. A bit less if she smoked light cigarettes. Upping the nicotine level will allow her to set the PV down on occasion.

You may want to read DVap's blog to get a better idea of what's going on. In fact I would suggest reading all his blogs as he's among the smarter ones on this forum and has done lots of research on PV's.

The heaviness in the lungs is likely just your system doing a bit of house cleaning. Give it a little time and it should clear up. Using a higher nicotine liquid could also help as you could get by with vaping less.

Telling someone to watch out for nicotine overdose is not good advise? Whatever...
Everything I write in post is IMO only...I'm not a doctor or an authority on e-juice and never claimed to be. What I AM, however, is annoyed at the fact that I can't post my opinion to the OP without others criticizing my opinions or concerns because they "think" they know better.
I don't need to read anyones blog to get a "better idea" of what's going on. You may not think I'm one of the "smarter" ones on the board, but I'm smart enough to know that nicotine overdose is dangerous. So why don't you all direct your OPINIONS to the OP and stop trying to correct me like you know better.
 

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Telling someone to watch out for nicotine overdose is not good advise? Whatever...
Everything I write in post is IMO only...I'm not a doctor or an authority on e-juice and never claimed to be. What I AM, however, is annoyed at the fact that I can't post my opinion to the OP without others criticizing my opinions or concerns because they "think" they know better.
I don't need to read anyones blog to get a "better idea" of what's going on. You may not think I'm one of the "smarter" ones on the board, but I'm smart enough to know that nicotine overdose is dangerous. So why don't you all direct your OPINIONS to the OP and stop trying to correct me like you know better.

You don't tell the OP to watch out for nicotine OD, you just blindly say that more nicotine will lead to nicotine OD. Everyone is allowed to post their opinion, but every post I have seen you make about nic strength, you try to post your opinion as fact, rather than opinion.

The simple fact is, many people need at LEAST 36mg to even start helping their cravings. You blindly refuse to believe this, and go around posting that anything over 24mg is dangerous and irresponsible. Just because you were fine with a lower nic strength does NOT mean everyone else will be, but you refuse to see that. I've tried 24mg, it didn't work for me, it hasn't worked for many others. How about next time instead of blindly stating that whatever amount of nicotine that is enough for you is enough for everybody else too, you yield to those that have "been there, done that" and open your eyes to see that just maybe, someone out there just might need something different that you.
 

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Travis: Thank you, you explained it better then I would have.

Another way to look at it is how much you smoked. The nicotine needs of someone who smoked 10 lights a day is vastly different then smoking 3 packs of standard smokes a day. The latter's tolerance for nicotine is far higher and is not likely going to OD using 36 mg liquid, or be satisfied with anything less. Someones tolerance for nicotine doesn't change when you pick up a PV.
 
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