Chair of RCGP pushing for e-cigs to be medically controlled!

[FringeChief68]

Just so you know

21st of Dec. The Royal College of General Practitioners (RCGP) announce this Roll-Out Pharmacist scheme,
and a £112M investment from Royal Pharmaceutical Society (RPS),
Roll-out of pharmacist scheme will benefit GPs and patients, says RCGP

3 Days after the £112M investment on the 24th of Dec., Helen Stokes-Lampard (Chair of RCGP) is pushing for e-cigs to be medically controlled.
Put vaping under medical control, says GPs’ leader

So the people of the UK will have to pay a Doctor to get a prescription to pay a pharmacist to give them a £5 e-cig for £100 or whatever mark up price they want.

Not sure how this will effect the U.S. since Big tobacco is already making a move to control e-cigs.
How the FDA Helped Philip Morris Crush the E-Cig Competition -- The Motley Fool

 

[FringeChief68]

Smoking economy is worth more than One Trillion Dollars world wide.

E-Cigarette Politics

 

[Cheallaigh]

smoking is a major income in some places from their taxes... there's always been a tight contridiction between saying smoking is bad and you must quit but they need the money from it...

 

[daviedog]

Just so you know

21st of Dec. The Royal College of General Practitioners (RCGP) announce this Roll-Out Pharmacist scheme,
and a £112M investment from Royal Pharmaceutical Society (RPS),
Roll-out of pharmacist scheme will benefit GPs and patients, says RCGP

3 Days after the £112M investment on the 24th of Dec., Helen Stokes-Lampard (Chair of RCGP) is pushing for e-cigs to be medically controlled.
Put vaping under medical control, says GPs’ leader

So the people of the UK will have to pay a Doctor to get a prescription to pay a pharmacist to give them a £5 e-cig for £100 or whatever mark up price they want.

Not sure how this will effect the U.S. since Big tobacco is already making a move to control e-cigs.
How the FDA Helped Philip Morris Crush the E-Cig Competition -- The Motley Fool

Puts a new twist on Doctor Shopping..

 

[Alien Traveler]

It was obvious from the beginning.
Do not believe Royal Physicians are on your side.
Yes, they have said vaping is not too dangerous. But of course it still should be supervise by the physicians. Preferable Royal ones.

 

[FringeChief68]

There's this too,
Individual NHS doctors receiving £100,000 per year from drugs firms

 

[ppeeble]

That's not how the NHS works. If a prescription is made for any item in the UK then there is a standard charge of £8.25 regardless of the cost of the item (it's free for pensioners, benefit claimants etc). I for one would love to get a mod, atomiser and liquid for $10.
The call for a ban of vapourisers in public places, however, i do not like at all. Thankfully i believe that this will not happen simply because it is unenforceable. At present it is up to the owners of establishments to make a decision to allow vaping. Thankfully most are ok with it...

 

[Eskie]

Quite misleading trying to link two separate articles and claim there is some collusion going on that would require extensive medical intervention and dramatically increase costs of vape products. The first article concerns pharmacists working with GPs to to reduce the time and expense spent on ALL medication prescribing and refills by putting the burden on pharmacists for routine matters like refills. There is nothing in that partnership or press announcement about vaping. And, as @ppeeble pointed out, that's not how the NHS in Britain even works as far as costs in seeing doctors or the costs of prescription medications.

The second story is unrelated and is an opinion piece viewing vaping from the perspective of harm reduction, that is, getting people to stop smoking, which is pretty much what everyone wants, including current vapers. Would I like to see further regulation of where you can vape? No. But I do not see some big conspiracy going on.

The third article concerns US regulations, not the UK. It's also old news, and trying to somehow connect it to the first two articles (which aren't related to each other anyway) makes it seem you believe there is some linkage between them all when there isn't.

 

[Verb]

It was obvious from the beginning.
Do not believe Royal Physicians are on your side.
Yes, they have said vaping is not too dangerous. But of course it still should be supervise by the physicians. Preferable Royal ones.

I agree on the Royal College of Physicians. For the sake of clarity, I'd like to note the article in the original post is in reference to the Royal College of General Practitioners.

 

[Alien Traveler]

I agree on the Royal College of Physicians. For the sake of clarity, I'd like to note the article in the original post is in reference to the Royal College of General Practitioners.

I am sorry for my misinformed post.
When I was still a little alien my mother taught me - never drink and write. I wish I'd followed her advice.

 

[FringeChief68]

Helen Stokes-Lampard said she was Misquoted and does NOT want Vaping Medicalised!!!

 

[FringeChief68]

Quite misleading trying to link two separate articles and claim there is some collusion going on that would require extensive medical intervention and dramatically increase costs of vape products. The first article concerns pharmacists working with GPs to to reduce the time and expense spent on ALL medication prescribing and refills by putting the burden on pharmacists for routine matters like refills. There is nothing in that partnership or press announcement about vaping. And, as @ppeeble pointed out, that's not how the NHS in Britain even works as far as costs in seeing doctors or the costs of prescription medications.

The second story is unrelated and is an opinion piece viewing vaping from the perspective of harm reduction, that is, getting people to stop smoking, which is pretty much what everyone wants, including current vapers. Would I like to see further regulation of where you can vape? No. But I do not see some big conspiracy going on.

The third article concerns US regulations, not the UK. It's also old news, and trying to somehow connect it to the first two articles (which aren't related to each other anyway) makes it seem you believe there is some linkage between them all when there isn't.

This is from my lack of knowledge on how the UK health systems work.
I am used to the US health system where when you see Big Pharma donating money to a health organization, charity, or a politician, it normally means a hidden agenda.
I just seen money going from the Royal Pharmaceutical Society & NHS to the RCGP and assumed the worst.
It's sad that Pharmaceutical has become an Evil word to me

 

[FringeChief68]

I got sucked in by FakeNews

My apologies

 

[FringeChief68]

Why oh Why : New Head of RCGP promotes a Twitterstorm of Anger

 

[dobroeutro]

Removed

I'm not sure of much but I am 110% sure that the motivations of the FDA & BT are not for the public's health...