I currently have several Halo G6 batteries. I'm ready to buy a few more just to keep around for backup when my current ones die, and I was thinking about getting a few Volts from SI. Would it hurt to charge the Volts on my current G6 chargers? I'm pretty clueless about the techie aspect of all this, voltage, OHMs etc. I just don't want to fry a charger or battery. Should I just go ahead and get the Volt charger when I order those batteries? Or am I good with my G6 charger?? Thanks!
Charger compatibilty with Halo G6 vs Volt?
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I think your G6 charger will work just fine with the Volts. The specs are listed on each website and both chargers have the same specs. 500MA, 50/60HZ, and Output Voltage of 5 volts.
You should be good to go.
You should be good to go.
I should add that having a backup charger is always a good idea and Smokeless Image is having a 25% off sale through Monday. You might consider adding one to your cart as a backup just in case.
I've got Volt and Halo batts , and both are perfectly interchangeable in my Volt USB charger
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I have found that my Volt sticks dont charge correctly on my generic KR808 chargers.. have NO idea why though.. even though they fit and light up.. they dont seem to take a full charge unless i use trhe volt charger.. *shrug* YMMV
Interesting... I had something odd happen to me last night that might be related. My 102mm G6 seemed to only last me about an hour when I swore it was fully charged. Problem is I don't recall which of my chargers I used, the Volt or G6 (which are 98% identical on the outside anyway) It may have just been my memory playing tricks though. I'll have to experiment and see what happens. If I notice anything hinky, I'll post it here.
Ya please do..
I know for a certainty that my charging experience is as I have stated. I would like to see what you experience
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I got a bad USB adapter with my halo G6 starter kit. So while I waited for a replacement, I picked up an Eon cigarette kit at a local store. My G6 batteries charged in the EON USB charger, and the EON battery also worked with the Halo clear mini tanks and cartridges. Don't know if that helps any G6-ers out there, but there ya go 
i used my v2 charger on the 390 mah push button batterys i got from myvaporstore.com.(half the price of v2's)
v2 chargers are blue light charged,red light charging.with the other brand they would be purple charging and
sometimes not change to blue light,charged.
in the case of mismatched charger to battery observe what the light on the tips behave.
my v2's will blink and then go out while charging.then blink again and stay on when charged.
my non v2's will blink and stay on when charging.then the light will go a few orders of magnitude dimmer
when charged.
i suspect this is an attempt to sell more chargers as the chip in the charger can identify the chip in the battery
and seem not to behave the same when anothers product is used on it.
so observe the behavior of the lights on your battery and it will give you an indication of its status.
all the chargers for any given battery style should work as the actual charging process is the same.
regards
mike
v2 chargers are blue light charged,red light charging.with the other brand they would be purple charging and
sometimes not change to blue light,charged.
in the case of mismatched charger to battery observe what the light on the tips behave.
my v2's will blink and then go out while charging.then blink again and stay on when charged.
my non v2's will blink and stay on when charging.then the light will go a few orders of magnitude dimmer
when charged.
i suspect this is an attempt to sell more chargers as the chip in the charger can identify the chip in the battery
and seem not to behave the same when anothers product is used on it.
so observe the behavior of the lights on your battery and it will give you an indication of its status.
all the chargers for any given battery style should work as the actual charging process is the same.
regards
mike
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Well, after a couple non-scientific* test runs, it looks like my G6 and Volt batts/chargers may not be interchangeable as I first thought.
I do want to do a slightly more rigorous series of tests to be certain but I wanted to share some of my preliminary findings since a few of you are curious.
Test run #1:
72mm SI Volt auto batt w/ Halo USB charger, plugged into the USB port of my Mac.
72mm Halo G6 auto batt w/ Volt USB charger, plugged into a USB wall adapter.
65mm SI Volt auto batt w/ Halo USB charger, forget which source I used.
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Both the Halo and SI USB chargers share the same ratings: input (5v @500mA) & output (5v @150mA)
With the exception of the brand logos, both chargers are identical in external design, and both have the red/blue charge indicator LED.
The output ratings of the Mac's USB port and the USB wall adapter(s) meet or exceed the input rating of both chargers.
*The non-scientific disclaimer is due to a couple things I'm fuzzy on and the fact that I didn't test anything with my multimeter:
1. I do not recall which of my USB wall adapters I used.
Both are Apple brand, but one is the standard small charger for an iPhone/iPod (5v 1A output)
and the other is the beefier version for iPad, iPhone, and iPod (5.2V 2.4A output)
Technically, as long as the source output current meets the minimum input of each charger, this should not have a noticeable impact, but I am
uncertain whether the slightly higher output voltage of the iPad charger can make a difference. At .2V, however, it shouldn't be much.
2. It is also possible that the Mac reduces the output current of the USB ports when the system is not being actively used, as I have since
used the Volt charger on a Volt batt and got mixed results that I didn't pay much attention to at the time. I'm researching this further.
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I used the G6 batt a little bit between classes that day, but only maybe 20 minutes total. I topped it off again that afternoon with the Volt charger.
That night, I went to a party at a friend's house, and after a little vaping on the long drive there and about my average usage during the party, the 72mm Halo lasted
roughly 1.5 - 2 hours, but I wasn't monitoring exact time only rough usage. I switched to the 72mm Volt which only lasted maybe 45 minutes.
I then swapped in the 65mm Volt and got another 30 minutes or so. It was the tail end of the party anyway, and I bummed a couple analogs to finish out the night.
Test #2(ish)
This time, I didn't use the Mac's USB, but one of the Apple wall adapters (again, I forget which) and another generic wall adapter from a Blu kit (5V 500mA output)
I had another long drive similar to the first, and vaped on the Halo batt almost the entire time (a little over an hour) and then for maybe another 30 minutes while
BSing after dinner. On the drive home, the Halo died 15-20 minutes in and I switched to the 72mm Volt. It died almost exactly an hour later. The 65mm Volt held me
for the rest of the drive and was still fine when I made it home, so I can't evaluate it's performance this run.
In comparison, my only other "trial" was about a week prior to the first test. I went to the same friend's place for the Steeler game, and the Halo batt lasted me the
entire time. I wasn't paying attention to usage, but I had the same long drive and was there for about 4.5 - 5 hours besides. I don't think I vaped much on the drive
back, but I'd estimate It held me for roughly 6 hours overall where I vaped as much as I'd have smoked analogs in that situation. Based on that, I gathered a
fully charged 72mm batt can cover me in most of my usual "smoking" situations. The other two tests, though, seem to support the theory that they
must be charged with their respective hardware.
I'm going to do one or two more comprehensive test runs in the near future, this time using identical output sources, keeping a close eye on actual vape time (if not monitoring it as precisely as possible) and possibly even puff count. I'll also most likely measure source/charger outputs and battery voltage more accurately, rather than go by listed specs.
I do want to do a slightly more rigorous series of tests to be certain but I wanted to share some of my preliminary findings since a few of you are curious.
Test run #1:
72mm SI Volt auto batt w/ Halo USB charger, plugged into the USB port of my Mac.
72mm Halo G6 auto batt w/ Volt USB charger, plugged into a USB wall adapter.
65mm SI Volt auto batt w/ Halo USB charger, forget which source I used.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(NOTE)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Both the Halo and SI USB chargers share the same ratings: input (5v @500mA) & output (5v @150mA)
With the exception of the brand logos, both chargers are identical in external design, and both have the red/blue charge indicator LED.
The output ratings of the Mac's USB port and the USB wall adapter(s) meet or exceed the input rating of both chargers.
*The non-scientific disclaimer is due to a couple things I'm fuzzy on and the fact that I didn't test anything with my multimeter:
1. I do not recall which of my USB wall adapters I used.
Both are Apple brand, but one is the standard small charger for an iPhone/iPod (5v 1A output)
and the other is the beefier version for iPad, iPhone, and iPod (5.2V 2.4A output)
Technically, as long as the source output current meets the minimum input of each charger, this should not have a noticeable impact, but I am
uncertain whether the slightly higher output voltage of the iPad charger can make a difference. At .2V, however, it shouldn't be much.
2. It is also possible that the Mac reduces the output current of the USB ports when the system is not being actively used, as I have since
used the Volt charger on a Volt batt and got mixed results that I didn't pay much attention to at the time. I'm researching this further.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I used the G6 batt a little bit between classes that day, but only maybe 20 minutes total. I topped it off again that afternoon with the Volt charger.
That night, I went to a party at a friend's house, and after a little vaping on the long drive there and about my average usage during the party, the 72mm Halo lasted
roughly 1.5 - 2 hours, but I wasn't monitoring exact time only rough usage. I switched to the 72mm Volt which only lasted maybe 45 minutes.
I then swapped in the 65mm Volt and got another 30 minutes or so. It was the tail end of the party anyway, and I bummed a couple analogs to finish out the night.
Test #2(ish)
This time, I didn't use the Mac's USB, but one of the Apple wall adapters (again, I forget which) and another generic wall adapter from a Blu kit (5V 500mA output)
I had another long drive similar to the first, and vaped on the Halo batt almost the entire time (a little over an hour) and then for maybe another 30 minutes while
BSing after dinner. On the drive home, the Halo died 15-20 minutes in and I switched to the 72mm Volt. It died almost exactly an hour later. The 65mm Volt held me
for the rest of the drive and was still fine when I made it home, so I can't evaluate it's performance this run.
In comparison, my only other "trial" was about a week prior to the first test. I went to the same friend's place for the Steeler game, and the Halo batt lasted me the
entire time. I wasn't paying attention to usage, but I had the same long drive and was there for about 4.5 - 5 hours besides. I don't think I vaped much on the drive
back, but I'd estimate It held me for roughly 6 hours overall where I vaped as much as I'd have smoked analogs in that situation. Based on that, I gathered a
fully charged 72mm batt can cover me in most of my usual "smoking" situations. The other two tests, though, seem to support the theory that they
must be charged with their respective hardware.
I'm going to do one or two more comprehensive test runs in the near future, this time using identical output sources, keeping a close eye on actual vape time (if not monitoring it as precisely as possible) and possibly even puff count. I'll also most likely measure source/charger outputs and battery voltage more accurately, rather than go by listed specs.
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