Charging Your Batteries

[Intervap]

So I have a 1000mah Joye eGo Twist. It takes a solid 6 to 7 hours to get a good charge, despite the fact that the charger says 420mah right on it. I know this isnt right, but does anyone else have the same sort of problem? Maybe with a different battery?
What charger should I buy if Im looking for a quicker charge time?

 

[Flavored]

The battery will draw less current from a constant voltage charger (which they all are) as the battery voltage increases. The 420 ma will be the max drawn when the battery is dead, but as it gets closer to fully charged, it will be less and less.

 

[Thrasher]

make sure the wall wart is always 500Ma or higher. anything less then 420 will slow down the charge also and is not good for the battery.

 

[Ryedan]

Something is wrong Intervap. As Thrasher said, make sure your wall wart is comparable in capacity to the charger. My 900 to 1300 Twists and Spinners charge at 420. None take much more than 2 hours, depending on discharge. Anything more than 3 hours is an issue in my book. Not that there is anything wrong with slow charging batts, it's actually good for them. But I would not use a charger if something about it seemed wrong or just didn't make sense.

 

[Damij]

That does seem like an unusually long charge time. Those above sound correct in suggesting you check your wall wart.

Personally I have an ego C passthrough battery. It's 650mah and probably only takes a couple of hours to charge. I'm honestly not sure, as I usually go to bed right after I put it on the charger.

On the other hand I have two 2250mah IMR 18650s that take several hours to charge, though they are much larger capacity batteries than the one you described.

 

[Rickajho]

How old is the battery and what have you been using on it?

Longer charge times, combined with shortening run times between charges, typically means that the battery is wearing out.

Low resistance devices are harder on batteries and they will wear out a battery sooner than SR devices.

 

[bhswmc01]

I've been dealing with the same issue on my brand new twist! Very frustrating, but I thought it was just par for the course. Time for more shopping, I guess!

So I have a 1000mah Joye eGo Twist. It takes a solid 6 to 7 hours to get a good charge, despite the fact that the charger says 420mah right on it. I know this isnt right, but does anyone else have the same sort of problem? Maybe with a different battery?
What charger should I buy if Im looking for a quicker charge time?

 

[Intervap]

I bought this with a Vivi Nova kit about a week or two ago. Was running the standard 2.4 ohm until recently when i tried the 1.8 (i think). It decreased the life of the charge but thats expected. I dont know, i just ordered a genuine Joyetech charger and new genuine JT eGo battery to run some tests. Ill try some other wall warts and get back to you guys too. I hope to solve this issue soon, hate going without vaping for too long!

 

[TLS01]

I've been dealing with the same issue on my brand new twist! Very frustrating, but I thought it was just par for the course. Time for more shopping, I guess!

No warranty?

 

[mkbilbo]

So I have a 1000mah Joye eGo Twist. It takes a solid 6 to 7 hours to get a good charge, despite the fact that the charger says 420mah right on it. I know this isnt right, but does anyone else have the same sort of problem? Maybe with a different battery? What charger should I buy if Im looking for a quicker charge time?

First thing is do you clean the contacts on the charger dongle? Little bits of juice on the battery contacts could accumulate on the charger. Mine gets pretty dirty after a while.

But, also, the wall adapters are a little on the iffy side apparently. I've run into them going south on people more often than they really should. I looked at mine today (while talking to somebody else on the forum about this exact same problem) and the output on my Joye branded wall adapter is only 500mA. That doesn't leave any room since the charger dongle's input is 500mA. So the wall adapter is running at capacity all the time. That bothers me. It's not a good idea.

You could try moving the charger dongle to a powered USB port (such as actually on the computer or a powered hub, unpowered ports such as on a keyboard can't drive the chargers). You could also do what I did, nab a USB wall adapter that has more capacity such as:

AmazonBasics Wall Charger with USB Outlet (2.1 Amp Output). 2.1 amps is 2100mA which is four times what the charger dongle needs. So the wall adapter isn't running "full tilt" the whole time. And, anyway, back ups are always a good idea.

Though, now, if your batteries are older, they do age (don't we all? ). A new Twist should charge in around 2.5 hours (ish). Mine are taking up to 4 now. But they've seen pretty heavy use...

 

[mkbilbo]

I've been dealing with the same issue on my brand new twist! Very frustrating, but I thought it was just par for the course. Time for more shopping, I guess!

Now I'm wondering if there's been a rash of bad wall adapters. Try a powered USB port and see if the charge time comes down to normal (should be within 3 hours for a new 1000mAh Twist). If so, the little "wall wart" is the problem...

 

[bhswmc01]

I'm going to call the store tomorrow to see what they say. I only bought the thing a week and a half ago, and it's taken forever to charge from the beginning.

No warranty?

 

[bhswmc01]

My ego minis charge in 60-90 minutes.

Now I'm wondering if there's been a rash of bad wall adapters. Try a powered USB port and see if the charge time comes down to normal (should be within 3 hours for a new 1000mAh Twist). If so, the little "wall wart" is the problem...

 

[mkbilbo]

My ego minis charge in 60-90 minutes.

That's about right. Ego chargers are usually 420mA and the minis are around 450mAh. So 450/420 is a bit over a hour. As a rough "rule of thumb" as I haven't actually bothered to read much on the whole saturation issue with Li-ion batteries. I know they need it, not clear on how that affects charge time.

 

[Rickajho]

Now I'm wondering if there's been a rash of bad wall adapters. Try a powered USB port and see if the charge time comes down to normal (should be within 3 hours for a new 1000mAh Twist). If so, the little "wall wart" is the problem...

Not necessarily bad (as in fritzing out and going up in smoke bad) but possibly over rated or mislabeled. The DC adapters that are typically sold with eGo charging dongles have a 500 mA output capacity. And if they are working properly that would be fine as the most an eGo charger will put out is 420 mA while charging. I'm wondering if the output capacity of the DC adapters in these problem scenarios is closer to 300 mA - like what they might manufacture for low battery capacity cell phones. The only way to rule in/out is to try a different one or a computer USB port as Mark suggested.

 

[szot]

All 5 of my Ego chargers say 500 ma and charge my 650ma, 900ma, 1100ma, and 1500ma Ego-C and Ego twists in 2-3 hrs max....but sometimes even quicker , like 30-90 minutes depending on useage....so something is definitely wrong with that new charger...

 

[Caridwen]

Do you have a multimeter? You can check your charger if you do.

 

[Rickajho]

Do you have a multimeter? You can check your charger if you do.

For a current output problem I believe you would need to test in series under load. That gets a little too mad scientist-y for me to suggest anyone mess with it.

 

[sailense]

Almost all regular 510 style chargers will run at 5v, 500mA input because that's the maximum defined in the USB spec and they are all pretty much USB based. So the wall warts are all designed to convert 100-240v 50/60Hz 100mA AC input to a 5v 500mA DC output. The actual charger then converts that 5v 500mA DC input to a 4.2v 420mA DC output.

So, you're looking at 3-4 hours for a 1000mAh battery and 1-2 hours for the 650mAh batteries from fully drained to a full charge under nominal conditions. It all depends on the condition of the battery and the efficiency of the charger. And both of these variables can degrade pretty quickly depending on the usage and quality of the battery or charger.

In your case, it would most likely be the battery at fault rather than the charger, but it's hard to tell without another battery or charger to test.

 

[SASmith]

I have been using this:

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0015DYMVO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

To charge my 1000mah ego twists, using the USB ports, I haven't actually timed them (I have multiples) but I'm guessing about 2 to three hours. I didn't like the look of the little cube wall adapter that came in my original kit, so I thought this would be safer........hopefully?