I have to wonder about them...it's been a little hard to find the "low-bridge" type 801 atomizers. There's another style, a "high-bridge" so called because the mesh bridge which helps to wick fluid into the atomizer from the cartridge almost always pushes the cartridge into the holder too far, causing inferior vapor, sometimes no vapor at all. It's an upside-down "V" shape. The Joye302 and the BE112 are the correct or 'low bridge' style, I have some high bridge ones I'll give to somebody who likes them for postage (six or seven)!! Just saying, $4.99 is very cheap for US pricing. I've looked at the site, may just ask a few quick questions and see if I get an answer. I'm sure if anyone looks at this thread we'll know soon enough, someone has surely bought from ValueVapor. I didn't see them on ECF's list of suppliers.