Chi You Clone Mod by HCigar?

[Geno0513]

Hello everyone! So I recently purchased a Chi You Clone from hcigar. It was a good deal and I wanted to start dabling in mech mods and rebuilds. I'm not fully ready to invest time and money into a rebuildable tank yet, so I figured a mech mod would be a good place to start learning more about batteries, and ect. before I go all out and potentially hurt myself.

I have a variety of tanks, but I use my Kangertech Aero Mega most often. It runs at about 1.8ohms. The battery I have for the Chi You is at 3.7v - will this give me a sufficient vape? If not, what can I do to get a better experience?

- Thanks!

 

[tayone415]

For a mech, I would only recommend you use high quality IMR batteries, like the Sony VTC line. Second, you need something that you can check your battery voltage throughout the day. Third a 3.7V battery charges up to 4.2V +/- 0.05 volts if using a smart charger, which is highly recommended to get and by a reputable brand. Last a mech is not going to perform too well with your tank. What you could do is get a kick and a kick tube for your Chi to get the best performance out of your tank.

 

[chrisrook]

It would give you the same vape as on an eGo. What exactly are you looking for in a vape? Loads of flavor, big clouds, battery efficiency, or real low sub ohm builds done safely?

 

[Geno0513]

Thanks for the feedback! I am getting a Sony 18650 VTC5 at 3.7v battery with a smart charger.

I'm buying it for the looks and to start dabbling in more advance vaping. I already have a few good batteries (ego vv/vw, MVP V2.0) so I'm not looking for huge clouds or anything.

Just something to get me some knowledge of mech mods and something practical.

The tank has 1.5 coils

 

[tayone415]

It would give you the same vape as on an eGo. What exactly are you looking for in a vape? Loads of flavor, big clouds, battery efficiency, or real low sub ohm builds done safely?

Actually it will NOT give you the same vape as an ego, a mechanical mod works completely different than a regulated device, UNLESS the mechanical mod is using a kick. A mechanical mod's voltage is based on the current battery voltage level and the resistance of the coil and is lowered with voltage drop caused by the battery, and the mod and connection to the tank. A regulated device keeps a more consistent power output even as the battery level drops, and if it's variable voltage or wattage it can be adjusted, where a mech can NOT be.

The OP also said he did NOT want to get in to rebuilding.

 

[tayone415]

Thanks for the feedback! I am getting a Sony 18650 VTC5 at 3.7v battery with a smart charger.

I'm buying it for the looks and to start dabbling in more advance vaping. I already have a few good batteries (ego vv/vw, MVP V2.0) so I'm not looking for huge clouds or anything.

Just something to get me some knowledge of mech mods and something practical.

The tank has 1.5 coils

Which battery charger are you getting?

Sony batteries are great if they are genuine

How to spot a fake Sony VTC5 battery

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html

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[Geno0513]

Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely confirm the battery is genuine as soon as I get it.

I'm getting the Efest XSmart Single Channel Intelligent Charger.

Can someone explain to me what a kick is, how it works, and how much they are price wise for a good one?

Also, what causes these catastrophic battery failures?

 

[tayone415]

Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely confirm the battery is genuine as soon as I get it.

I'm getting the Efest XSmart Single Channel Intelligent Charger.

Can someone explain to me what a kick is, how it works, and how much they are price wise for a good one?

I have Efest Single Intelligent charger as my first charger, it's not too bad, but doesn't always fully charge batteries and a couple other issues here and there, I'd recommend at least getting the 2 bay LUC charger by Efest.

A kick or kick 2 turns a mechanical mod into a regulated mod and it adds safety for users who like the looks of a mech but wants the safety of a regulated device, but for the Chi You, you would need to also get a kick ring.

The Kick 2 was designed to be used with IMR batteries only.

Output Power – 5 Watts to 15 Watts
Output Voltage – 2 Volts to 6.3 Volts
Output Current – 6 Amps
Atty Resistance – 0.5 Ohms to 3.3 Ohms

 

[Geno0513]

I have Efest Single Intelligent charger as my first charger, it's not too bad, but doesn't always fully charge batteries and a couple other issues here and there, I'd recommend at least getting the 2 bay LUC charger by Efest.

A kick or kick 2 turns a mechanical mod into a regulated mod and it adds safety for users who like the looks of a mech but wants the safety of a regulated device, but for the Chi You, you would need to also get a kick ring.

The Kick 2 was designed to be used with IMR batteries only.

Output Power – 5 Watts to 15 Watts
Output Voltage – 2 Volts to 6.3 Volts
Output Current – 6 Amps
Atty Resistance – 0.5 Ohms to 3.3 Ohms

I gotcha.

For a recap - will the set up I described be safe if not abused? To my understanding sub-ohmimg leads to a lot of malfunctions in the hands of inexperienced users.

Unmodified 1.5ohm coil on this battery; is it safe?

Also - what are proper charging techniques? I know never to charge overnight, but should I time the battery charging cycles as well?

 

[tayone415]

I gotcha.

For a recap - will the set up I described be safe if not abused? To my understanding sub-ohmimg leads to a lot of malfunctions in the hands of inexperienced users.

Unmodified 1.5ohm coil on this battery; is it safe?

Also - what are proper charging techniques? I know never to charge overnight, but should I time the battery charging cycles as well?

Will it be safe with a Protank with a 1.5 ohm coil? Yes, as long as your batteries are high quality IMR batteries. You mentioned getting the VTC5s, which is a great choice, just check if and make sure they're genuine. You also want to get something to check battery voltage and make sure your charger isn't under or over charging your battery, a smart charger should charge to 4.2 volts +/_ 0.05 volts. The smart charger is designed that it should stop charging when the battery reaches the max charge. You also need to make sure you don't discharge your battery below 2.5 volts or the effects can make your battery unusable and unsafe, and there can be safety issues as well if still vaping with a nearly dead battery. Unlike a regulated device on a mech there is no battery cutoff for low voltage or over x time protection while firing.

 

[Geno0513]

Okay sweet!

How often should I charge? Should I develop a habit of charging an hour or so a day? I believe it's a 2600MAH battery.

What kind of vape do you think I can get off this thing ^_^ ?

I'll be looking into RDA and RBA soon as I have the spending money.

 

[tayone415]

Okay sweet!

How often should I charge? Should I develop a habit of charging an hour or so a day? I believe it's a 2600MAH battery.

What kind of vape do you think I can get off this thing ^_^ ?

I'll be looking into RDA and RBA soon as I have the spending money.

With an Li-ion IMR battery it goes by charging cycles not charges, so you want to make sure your battery is charged so you don't fall in to the grey or red zone.

If you get in to RDAs or RTAs, you need to do even more research about safety and building. You also need to invest in an ohm reader that reads to the third digit ie: 1.54 ohms NOT 1.5 ohms since 1.5 can be anywhere between 1.45-1.54 ohms. But, take your time don't rush in to things. Get comfortable with checking your batteries and testing them and knowing when to charge and how to clean and maintain your mech first.

 

[Felipe Ascencio]

Nice thanks for all the feedback, im learning a lot too

 

[tayone415]

Nice thanks for all the feedback, im learning a lot too

No Problem

 

[m3nace]

I would start looking up rebuild able atomizers as a 1.5 ohm coil on a mech will most like not suit your taste since it's unregulated when you first start it'd be decent depending on how high you normally set your watts/voltage at. Mech mods run solely on the battery so a high ohm coil will make the vape weaker as the batteries start to lose their charge since nothing regulating it