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[chalton]

Ok so I'm newish here and having read some posts about china juices and china this and china that I have to say its quite off putting and scary to some esp new people... what amazes me is the people who write the posts saying china juices are bad etc are probably smoking juice from china without knowing it anyway... most if not all juices apart from intelecig are made in china and even their nicotine is from china . ...

My thoughts are china juice is actually better than uk and europe made, tested juices and probably cleaner... so please if your new here dont be put off like I was by some posts here..I have vaped their juices for weeks and well I'm still here lol and many members here have used it for years and their still ok...

Let's not put any country down here we are united in vapeing are we not?

The more scare stories that go out the more the governments have to use so let's just stick to facts to help everyone..

Facts are china, usa, uk, europe etc all have amazing juice and products ...

Thats all I wanted to say... oh apart from I'm now on day 19 only 2 normal fags a day now down from 30 !!! Wow

 

[Boiler]

Plus, they come pre-steeped!

 

[PLANofMAN]

Virtually all our nicotine comes from China. Johnson's Creek is the one exception that I know about. They source their nicotine from Virgina. Flavorings come from all over, including many that come from Italy. I have not heard anyone claim that Chinese juices will kill us all, but I have heard plenty of people say that they prefer American blends over Chinese ones.

"most if not all juices apart from intelecig are made in china" is blatantly false. Some of the flavorings and most likely all of the nicotine might come from China, but to say that virtually all juices come from China is ridiculous. Most of us that are lucky enough to have a high quality vape shop nearby can walk in, order a juice and watch them mix it right there.

If you had said that virtually all flavorings come from China, I would agree, with the caveat that your statement was probably true, though unprovable.

This is from Wizard Labs' website:
"All Wizard Labs liquid nicotine solutions and concentrated flavorings are produced using only the highest quality USP grade, and FDA approved ingedients for your safety and peace of mind. Our organic nicotine extraction is performed through partnership with one of the providing labs to Johnson & Johnson's global line of nicotine based products for your assurance of chemical purity, quality control, and reliable results." They are located in Florida.

It's interesting to follow the trail. Wizard Labs gets most of their flavorings from The Flavor Apprentice, who in turn sources some of their stuff from these three companies:
IFF (International Flavors and Fragrances)
International Flavors & Fragrances Inc.

Givaudan
http://www.givaudan.com

Firmenich
Firmenich > Homepage

each one has facilities all over the world. All these flavors must pass FDA approval to be used here in the U.S.
This topic has been discussed before, and it is in everyone's best interest to keep the juice pure, especially the manufacturers. They are all aware that one mess up could give government agencies the excuse to shut everyone down.

...and congratulations on cutting back on your smoking so quickly!!!

 

[crxess]

I have/do use plenty of juices from China and Made in USA.

I can say with all honesty and after buying from over 20 venders, We make as many mistakes as they ever would. I have gotten a few unvapable and actually sickening products from both countries as well as several Excellent juices from both.