Chinese Suppliers Response to FDA's Finding

[tannerk]

thank you for the more detailed info. Much appreciated and it does make it appear that they may indeed be the mfg. in question.

Just in case you were wondering, SE products are Loongtotem. You can see on their website the same e-cigs, kit boxes, carts and cart packaging. SE just gets products printed with their name.

Loongtotem,Electronic Cigarette,E-cigarette,Mini Electronic Cigarette V9

Perhaps someone can confirm that Loongtottem gets their 555 from Aboom.

 

[kinabaloo]

I was thinking the same thing yesterday when I heard that the report claimed that one cart had a DEG level of <1%. Unless they are more specific about what <1% means, it could mean anything. It could mean 0.09% or it could mean 0.000000001% down to lower limit of precision of the test methodology they used. I have not had time to personally read the report. Does anyone have any pertinent information in this regard.

afai can see, there's no number given, so i think we are on the very edge of detectability - i.e. circa 0.0000001%

 

[KevinG]

Just in case you were wondering, SE products are Loongtotem. You can see on their website the same e-cigs, kit boxes, carts and cart packaging. SE just gets products printed with their name.

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Perhaps someone can confirm that Loongtottem gets their 555 from Aboom.

Might want to verify your findings before posting

SE Cartridges are NOT Loong Totem Cartridges.

 

[Txrider]

Reading the FDA test result PDF....

I note they found the approx 1% DEH in the whole cartridge test, not in the simulated smoking test.

I also note they used the test for trans dermal patches and inhalers, and did so in the cartridge plastic parts and plug/wrapper all together. Not a test used for actual tobacco or cigarettes, though they blacked out part of the extraction process for some reason.

I also note the "tobacco specific nitrosomines" detected in the test was basically roughly 200 nanograms per gram. Or 200 billionths of a gram per gram.

I also note they didn't show these levels in the simulated smoking test, basically the simulated smoking test showed almost none of the tobacco impurities. Not enough to measure anyway (at billion or trillions ppm) and found no nicotine in the non nicotine cartridge vapor.

 

[chad]

Yes, you are correct about both making 555, however, all Boge/Dekang carts plugged with rubber caps, and SE’s sealed with foil. Unless I’m missing something, the Aboom is the only company manufactures foil-sealed carts.

Please don’t take this info literally; I would want to mislead anyone. This is the info I have.

Blu has foil on their carts too and claim they're made in Holland (I asked them via email a month or so back).