Cholesterol Management and the e-Cig

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NorthOfAtlanta

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Just had mine checked about three weeks ago, 127 LDL and 39 Hdl. Doctor had me on Niaspan and then slow niacin for about 18 months and I started vaping only in mid December. Don't know if the meds or quiting smoking helped the most but the 166 total was a big decrease from the 240 at my last test.

Try the ecf google search, I typed cholesterol in it and got 10 pages of hits.
 

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you may want to look at this before you worry about your cholesterol levels. lots of words but look at the table 5 on p 1091. The lowest OVERALL risk of death occurs at cholesterol levels of 200-260. Levels lower and higher than that increased your risk

http://dspace.lib.kanazawa-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2297/7526/1/ME-PR-MABUCHI-H-1087.pdf

telling us to constantly lower our TC is just a way to sell more statins(which are only effective at preventing death in a very small part of the population- men that have had previous CV events)

if you look at this chart- the blue line, it shows that low TC is much more dangerous than high TC

http://renegadewellness.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/cholesterol-mortality-chart.pdf
 

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you may want to look at this before you worry about your cholesterol levels. lots of words but look at the table 5 on p 1091. The lowest OVERALL risk of death occurs at cholesterol levels of 200-260. Levels lower and higher than that increased your risk

http://dspace.lib.kanazawa-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2297/7526/1/ME-PR-MABUCHI-H-1087.pdf

telling us to constantly lower our TC is just a way to sell more statins(which are only effective at preventing death in a very small part of the population- men that have had previous CV events)

if you look at this chart- the blue line, it shows that low TC is much more dangerous than high TC

http://renegadewellness.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/cholesterol-mortality-chart.pdf

I have had a heart attack and have 2 stents .. that's why I am curious .. I am also on a statin ..
 

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well, you may want to spend some time reading the heart scan blog by Dr Davis or Spacedoc, but basically, the best way to reduce your risk is to eliminate carbs(wheat, sugar, HFCS) and reduce Omega 6(veg oil), take Vit D, Niacin, omega 3's

basically eat real, unprocessed foods. meat and veggies

I tried to do a search of ecigs and cholesterol and really did not find much. Have you found any effect of ecigs on your cholesterol?

probably the worst player in this is nicotine- which you would get from analogs anyhow. Do you vape 0 nic?

Effects of the transdermal nicotine patch on normal... [Prev Med. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI

Cholesterol changes in smoking cessation using the ... [Prev Med. 1994] - PubMed - NCBI

But, like Chad said, these are sugar alcohols, not oils
 

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I have been on a statin and a high fiber diet now for 3.5 years, my total cholesteral remains low .. I use 6mg nic ..

I thought they were oils simply because they feel oily ..

I'm simply wondering what others experience has been .. since there is little to no info I can find ..
 
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here are some posts I found on ECF

The only side effects I've noticed are all good. I posted this somewhere else recently, but it can go here, too:

My company requires (and pays for) a complete physical every year. This year my physical was about ten weeks after I'd quit smoking and gone to vaping. One of the tests is lung function, and it measures your lung performance against standard population curves. My lungs now function as well as an 18 year old non-smoker, and I'm pushing 50. To be fair, the highest I ever scored on it, even when I smoked, was 28.
Last physical my triglyceride levels were 205, and the company doctor scolded me. They should be below 150. This year they were 117. Last year my HDL/LDL cholesterol ratio put me at around 2.5 times normal risk for heart disease, this year I'm right at normal. Anecdotally, I don't get out of breath nearly as fast as I used to.

The only change I've made is cutting out cigarettes - no diet changes, no exercise changes, nothing like that. Oh, and I weigh 10 lbs less than when I quit smoking. I'm almost the same size I was in high school, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.



I. Introduction

Nicotine contained in tobacco is habit-forming and addictive. In addition
cigarettes have many carcinogens and toxins, so they are known to have a role
in the onset of various respiratory and circulatory ailments, and also, they are
known to increase the risk of a great number of malignancies leading to lung cancer.
Also, sidestream smoke contains toxins beyond even those in mainstream smoke, and
damage to health due to passive smoking has become a big problem [1]. Since 2004,
when they were first sold in China, electronic cigarettes as a nicotine delivery
system have amassed worldwide popularity [2]. These devices generally are made up
of a cartridge containing a liquid which includes nicotine, propylene glycol or
glycerin, and various flavorings. a heating element, and a battery, and by sucking
in the heating element is activated, and the solution is vaporized so that it can be
inhaled. As opposed to what one may call regular cigarettes, fire is not used, so
tar and carbon monoxide that accompany combustion and sidestream smoke from the tip
are not produced. Laugesen calls these nicotine-containing electronic cigarettes a
safer alternative to cigarette smoking [3]. On the other hand, the World Health
Organization has claimed that electronic cigarettes of this sort have not been
recognized as nicotine replacement therapy [4]. In addition, the U.S. Food and Drug
Administration has disassembled cartridges from two separate manufacturers and has
cited, in addition to nicotine, the presence of carcinogens such as tobacco-specific
nitrosamines, impurities characteristic of tobacco, and toxic diethylene glycol in
order to point out the danger of these devices [5]. In addition, because of the
flavors available, there is apprehension about young people getting their hands on
nicotine products [6]. Also, clinical trials concerning their safety have not been
done [7].

Against this background, electronic cigarettes free of nicotine were developed. The
object of this research is to test the safety of nicotine-free electronic cigarettes
developed by JBS Corporation when used by smokers. By sucking on these electronic
cigarettes, the glycerin-containing liquid inside the cartridge is heated and turns
into a vapor that is white in color. Through the inhalation of this vapor, the
devices are used as a tobacco-replacement product. In this study, subjects who were
smokers used these electronic cigarettes for 28 days, and tests were performed to
assess the devices' safety. Furthermore, as of October 2008, these devices were
already on the market.

When glycerin is heated, the toxic substance acrolein may be produced. This
substance is produced in the process of cooking food, and is also found in the
atmosphere [8]. With this in mind, the production of acrolein in the vapor emitted
by these electronic cigarettes was tested.

II. Methodology

1. Test equipment
Product name: Mild Smoker Next (JBS Corp.)
Device construction (Figure 1)
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Filter Cartridge
Joint (atomizer)
Main unit (rechargeable battery)
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Figure 1 Test equipment (electronic cigarette) configuration
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Main unit (rechargeable battery)
Joint (atomizer)
Filter Cartridge


Contents of filter cartridge used in tests
Aqueous glycerin solution (approx. 0.25 g.)
Composition: Food-additive-grade glycerin, purified water


2. Subjects
Male and female volunteers 20 or older who were habitual smokers using 20 or more
cigarettes per day were chosen as subjects. Further, those who had used electronic
cigarettes before, those with an existing history of heart and/or respiratory
conditions, those with a predisposition for allergies or chronic dermatitis, and
others who were judged by the doctors in charge of testing to be unfit for this
study were excluded. Ultimately, 34 people who met the above conditions were
selected. The age of the participants was 44.9±13.7 (mean±standard deviation), with
26 males and 8 females. This study was carried out with the approval of the Osaka
City University Graduate Medical Research Ethics Committee (approval number 1794),
and the study was carried out upon receiving the written consent of participants
after thoroughly explaining the goals and content of the study in accordance with
the Declaration of Helsinki (revised 2008).

3. Testing Schedule
The testing schedule is shown in figure 2. First, prescreening using an advance
checklist was carried out, and those who were found to be suitable were requested to
enter the clinic as candidate subjects. The period of electronic cigarette use was
set for July 10 - August 6, 2010, with participants coming to the clinic a total of
three times - once before use began, once one week into use, and once the day after
the last day of use. The first time they came to the clinic, participants were
informed of testing procedures and their written consent was acquired.

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Ethics Committee approval -> Recruitment and prescreening of subjects -> Entry and
acquisition of consent / Screening / Assessment of eligibility (First visit [before
beginning testing]) -> Electronic cigarette use - 28 days (Second visit [after one
week of use]) (Third visit [upon completion])
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Figure 2 Testing schedule
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At the first and third visits subjects were given a physical examination, and blood
and urine samples were collected. Further, intake of anything other than water was
prohibited from 9 P.M. of the night before these visits. It was recognized that a
single cartridge did not produce much smokelike vapor after 150 puffs. Based on
this, participants were instructed to replace the filter cartridge with a new one
every day, and after taking 150 puffs in a day or upon experiencing a sharp decline
in vapor output. No particular restrictions were placed on subjects' smoking during
the course of the study.

4. Checkup Provisions
1) Physical examination: Weight, BMI, blood pressure, pulse
During the first visit, heights were measured, and BMI was calculated using weight
measurements obtained at each visit. Also, blood pressure and pulse were measured on
an individual basis after 5-10 minutes of rest using an automatic sphygmomanometer.
2) Hematological analysis
Leukocyte count, erythrocyte count, platelet count, hemoglobin, hematocrit, MCV
(mean corpuscular volume), MCH (mean cell hemoglobin), MCHC (mean corpuscular
hemoglobin concentration)
3) Biochemical blood analysis
Albumin, blood urea nitrogen, creatinine, total bilirubin, AST, ALT, γ-GTP, total
cholesterol, triglyceride, HDL cholesterol, blood sugar (empty stomach)
4) Urinalysis
D-glucose, protein, and urobilinogen were assessed qualitatively on urinalysis
forms.
5) Interview examination
Interviews were given during the three visits. At the first visit, history of
illness, present health condition, and history of allergies was confirmed, and upon
completion of the study subjects were interviewed about any changes in physical
condition due to use of the test devices. Also, at the second visit, along with an
interview concerning changes in physical condition, consumption was determined by
measuring the change in the weight of spent filter cartridges, and in the case of
conspicuously low consumption of glycerin, guidance was given on inhalation
technique.
6) Journal
Participants were requested to keep a journal noting frequency of use of the test
device, changes in physical condition, and use of pharmaceuticals over the course of
the four weeks of use of the test devices.

5. Tests Concerning Acrolein Production
The toxic substance acrolein can be produced by heating glycerin. Therefore,
acrolein formation in the vapor emitted by electronic cigarettes was tested. For
this test, a chemical assessment research group was consulted. Vapor produced by
electronic cigarettes was trapped and cooled with liquid nitrogen, and 0.3 g. of the
resulting liquid was kept at a constant volume with methanol and subjected to
analysis by gas chromatography.

6. Statistical Analysis
All data were arranged based on mean value ± standard deviation. For assessment of
safety, weight, BMI, blood pressure, pulse, and the values from clinical blood tests
from before the test began and from after four weeks of use were analyzed using a
paired t-test, and a risk rate below 5% was considered significant. SPSS 15.0J for
Windows (SPSS Inc., Chicago, IL) was used for statistical analysis.

III. Results
34 people consented to this study, and up to the second visit, all were still
participating, but by the third visit, two participants had dropped out of the study
due to personal reasons, so 32 subjects successfully completed the study. As for the
test devices, weight of filter cartridges before and after use were compared on an
electronic scale (that measures in grams to up to three decimal places), and
compliance was confirmed based on these measurements and on the journal entries. All
subjects who successfully completed the study had used the device on over 90% of
days (proportion of days: 97.7±4.4%). Mean amount consumed was 0.181±0.040 g., and
compared with filter cartridges used in preliminary testing where 150 puffs used an
amount of 0.235±0.021 g. (n=13), compliance was judged to be good at over 70%.

1. Influence on blood pressure and body weight
Table 1 displays the changes before and after electronic cigarette use in body
weight, BMI, systolic blood pressure, diastolic blood pressure, and pulse. No change
was seen in weight and BMI. Both systolic and diastolic blood pressure showed a
statistically significant increase after four weeks of using the test devices, but
it was slight and judged to be within the normal physiological range of
fluctuation.

2. Blood tests
Table 2 shows the values from hematological analysis before and after use of
electronic cigarettes. Leukocyte count, erythrocyte count, platelet count,
hemoglobin, and MCHC were not affected by use of the test devices. On the other
hand, hematocrit, MCV, and MCH showed a statistically significant decrease over the
four weeks using the test devices, but it was a very small change and was within the
normal physiological rate of fluctuation.

Table 3 shows the values from biochemical blood analysis before and after electronic
cigarette use. Stasistically significant changes in blood albumin density,
creatinine content, AST, and HDL cholesterol were registered after the four weeks of
use, but they were slight and judged to be within the normal physiological range of
fluctuation.

3. Urinalysis
Out of the 32 subjects, irregularities were noticed in urinalysis results for two
subjects. One showed an increase of one in urine proteins, while the other showed an
increase of three in urine proteins and an increase in urine sugars of two, but
there were no fluctuations over the study period and electronic cigarettes had no
influence (Table 4).

4. Interviews and journals
Five subjects complained of throat irritation, one complained of lip irritation, and
two complained of coughing or phlegm due to use of the test devices. These symptoms
went away after testing was completed (Table 5).

5. Testing related to acrolein production
Results of testing two filter cartridges showed per-cartridge acrolein levels of
2.31 μg and 7.08 μg.

IV. Observations


This study targeted smokers and tested the safety of electronic cigarettes when used
with glycerin as an ingredient at the rate of one cartridge per day for 28 days.
Urine and blood analysis, subject journals, interviews by physicians, and also
physical examinations were done before using the test devices and again after four
weeks of use, but abnormal fluctuations in clinically tested variables and critical
signs of harm that could be considered to have a causal relationship to these test
devices were not found. While it was found that 7 out of 32 subjects (22%)
experienced mild symptoms of upper respiratory irritation while using the test
devices, these symptoms disappeared after the study's conclusion. Subjects continued
to smoke ordinary cigarettes during the study period. Accordingly, there is the
possibility that use of these devices can give upper respiratory irritation to a
certain proportion of people. When Bullen et al. compared the frequency of oral
cavity and throat irritation for groups of users of nicotine-free electronic
cigarettes, nicotine-containing electronic cigarettes, and the Nicorette® inhaler,
they reported finding 22%, 38%, and 88% respectively for the three groups [9].
These results match those of this study, and there were not thought to be any
problems with tolerability.

That acrolein is produced from the application of heat to the aqueous glycerin
solution in the test cartridges was evident from testing. Acrolein is formed when
cooking foods containing carbohydrates, vegetable oils, and animal fats and amino
acids, and is also obtained from the burning of petroleum and biodiesel fuels [8].
When administered orally to mice, rats, and dogs, acrolein did not show
carcinogenicity in tests for the same. Tests with exposure through inhalation were
also reported, but there were problems with the number of animals and with the
duration of the study, and data sufficient for evaluation were not obtained. As a
result, it is classified as Group 3 (agents not classifiable as to their
carcinogenicity to humans) by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC)
[10]. Nevertheless, acrolein is found in nature, and human daily intake is 4.6 μg
from the atmosphere, 0.30 μg from drinking water, and 88 μg from dietary sources
[10]. In the case of tobacco, mainstream smoke from one cigarette contains
9.93-116 μg of acrolein, and sidestream smoke from one cigarette contains 288-348 μg
[10,11]. To give specific examples, Mild Sevens contain 47.6-110 μg per cigarette
and Frontier Lights contain 9.9-38.0 μg [11]. The filter cartridges used in this
study can be used over 150 times, and this is thought to be equal to a pack of (20)
cigarettes. Considering this carefully, while one cannot completely deny the
potential harm of acrolein, the amount of acrolein inhaled from one filter
cartridge in the test device is roughly equivalent to the amount humans are exposed
to from the atmosphere, and is less than the lowest amounts of acrolein found in the
mainstream smoke from one cigarette, so when one considers that these devices are
used by smokers for the purpose of reducing smoking, we may come to think of this
toxicity as unproblematic.

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y-axis: cigarettes smoked (number / day)
x-axis:
before beginning the study
fourth week of the study
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Figure 3 Change in number of cigarettes smoked as a result of using the test devices
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This study showed a statistically significant decrease in cigarettes consumed while
the test devices were being used (figure 3). Since the filter cartridges used did
not contain nicotine, it cannot be simply thought that it was because of a decrease
in the desire for cigarettes that accompanies nicotine dependence, but a correlation
between use of the device and a decrease in cigarettes consumed was evident. The
reason for the decrease in cigarettes consumed is unclear, but it is possible that
compulsion to inhale from the device at least 150 times per day cut into
opportunities to smoke. Among 45 flavors offered under 25 brand names domestically,
nicotine was detected in 15 flavors under 11 brand names [12]. These cartridges and
devices that vaporize nicotine are in violation of the Pharmaceutical Business Law
[13]. Similar issues have been raised by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and
this can be considered a problem that should be given heed [6].

V. Summary

The safety of electronic cigarettes employing an aqueous glycerin solution for four
weeks was tested for smokers (of more than 20 cigarettes per day). In addition, the
change in amount smoked over the period the electronic cigarettes were used was
investigated. Blood tests, urinalysis, subject journals, and physician interviews
took place both before and after use, but abnormal fluctuations in clinically tested
variables and critical signs of harm that could be considered to have a causal
relationship to these test devices were not found, and the safety of the electronic
cigarettes used in this study was confirmed. Acrolein was detected in the vapor
produced by the electronic cigarettes, but it was less than the lowest amounts found
in the mainstream smoke from a single cigarette, and when used by smokers this is
not considered problematic. In addition, consumption of cigarettes declined
appreciably in correlation with use of these electronic cigarettes. Consequently,
the possibility that the electronic cigarettes tested are a safer alternative for
smokers is suggested.

Japanese sources:
10) Shin enerugī sangyō gijutsu sōgō kaihatsu kikō. Akurorein. Kagaku busshi�tsu no
shoki risuku hyōka sho 2006.
[New Energy and Industrial Technology Development Organization. Acrolein.
Preliminary chemical risk assessment paper. 2006.]

11) Kōsei rōdō shō. Heisei 11-12 nendo tabako-en no seibun bunseki ni tsuite
(gaiyō).
[Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare. Concerning constituent analysis of tobacco
smoke, Heisei 11-12 {1999-2000} (Outline)]

12) Dokuritsu gyōsei hōjin kokumin seikatsu sentā. Denshi tabako no anzensei o
kangaeru. ?????(??)_???
[National Consumer Affairs Center. Considering the safety of electronic cigarettes.
?????(??)_??? ]

13) Yaku shoku kan ma hatsu 0818 dai 5 gō (Heisei 22-nen 8-gatsu 18-nichi tsuki).
Nikochin o gan'yū suru denshi tabako ni kansuru yakuji kanshi no tettei ni tsuite
(irai).
[Pharmaceutical and Food Safety Bureau - Compliance and Narcotics Division report
No. 0818 Volume 5 (Heisei 22 {2010} August 18th)
Concerning thoroughness of the Pharmaceutical Business Law oversight of electronic
cigarettes containing nicotine (request).]


Cholesterol & Nicotine
My wife and doctor are glad I quit analogs, but still tell me nicotine is bad. I thought that nicotine by itself is like caffine and no more dangerous. Recently I was told that nicotine elevates cholesterol, my wife (next to me when told this) agreed. I told her (wife) you never (nor the doctor) explained to me WHY nicotine was bad, just that it was. My blood tests have shown my cholesterol levels much higher than when I was smoking a year ago. My doctor put me on meds because of my cholesterol levels.

So, any truth to this, has anyone else experienced elevations in their cholesterol levels?

From the Journal of the American College of Cardiology (1997) (bold emphasis at end of quote mine) ScienceDirect - Journal of the American College of Cardiology : Cardiovascular Toxicity of Nicotine: Implications for Nicotine Replacement Therapy:

5.3. Nicotine and Lipids.
Nicotine, by release of catecholamines, induces lipolysis and releases plasma free fatty acids. There is evidence that these free fatty acids are primarily taken up by the liver, which might be expected to increase the synthesis of VLDL, consistent with changes described in cigarette smokers ([93]).
Results of studies of the effects of nicotine on lipids in animals are conflicting. Injection of nicotine or feeding of nicotine has been reported ([83, 84, 88]) to increase total cholesterol in rabbits and monkeys receiving a high cholesterol diet. Nicotine feeding in squirrel monkeys for 2 years has been shown ([94]) to increase plasma levels of LDL. The mechanism in monkeys included both accelerated synthesis of LDL through lipolysis of HDL and VLDL and impaired clearance of LDL. Of importance in interpreting these animal studies is that high doses of nicotine have been administered, often by an oral route, and without measurement of blood levels of nicotine to determine exposure adequately.
Most studies in humans given nicotine preparations suggest that nicotine delivered in these forms does not have an adverse effect on lipid profiles. In one study ([95]), nicotine chewing gum (2 mg eight times a day) was given to healthy nonsmokers for 2 weeks. No changes in plasma concentrations of triglycerides; total, HDL or LDL cholesterol; or apolipoprotein A1 or B were noted. In another study ([96]), 20 nonsmokers with ulcerative colitis received transdermal nicotine (15 mg/day) for 12 weeks. No changes in plasma lipids were found. Also, there were no changes in white cell count or platelet activation (assessed by platelet volume and expression of P-selectin), and no evidence of endothelial damage (assessed by plasma Von Willebrand factor antigen levels) was detected. Data from smokers who stop smoking and use transdermal nicotine indicate that lipids change toward normal while taking nicotine ([97]).

I smoked for 21 years and have been vaping for 2. I had a follow-up with my doctor today to go over major bloodwork results. (It was an overdue check for everything.) She remarked that most people would kill to have cholesterol numbers like mine. I know I'm only one person, but at least for me, nicotine has not adversely affected my cholesterol.

That's kind of how I think, MK. I don't need to have any studies to tell me that I breathe better, have lower cholesterol readings, overall better health, and am recovering my voice. And, as I said in another thread, my Obstructive Sleep Apnea has improved tremendously since I started vaping. If there turns out to be a down side, I'll still be better off than I was smoking.


I began vaping in Feb. At that time I weighed a little over 200 lb, was a borderline diabetic and my cholesterol levels were on the edge of being a concern. I went in for my 3 month blood test a couple weeks ago and my doctor wanted to see me a couple days later. He wanted to know what I'd been doing differently. I had lost over 20 lbs., my blood sugar was down well into acceptable levels and I've had a significant drop in my cholesterol. I showed him my e-cig and he said "Hmmm... You're the second person today that's shown me one of those..... Let's get some chest x-rays."
I'm sure the x-rays are gonna come back clear and he'll be convinced.
This is the only thing I've ever found in my life that seems too good to be true...........and IS.



I have a family history of cholesterol levels well into the 300s by 50 years old. Mine was climbing steadily-started at 178, 5 yrs. later was at 205. I quit smoking in April, had it tested in Sept. and it was at 173! WoooHooo! Made me VERY happy! My heart rate is down nicely, too. It use to test at 90-100 beats a minute pretty regularly. Now it is usually around 65. My blood pressure has also dropped a little bit and holding nicely well within the normal range. I am very happy.
I was a 2 pack a day smoker for 34 years. I use about 2-3 ml. of 24-30mg. VG juice a day. I've been using my ecig since Jan. 2009. Quit smoking in April.​
 

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PG is NOT Oil.Glycerin is part of Oils . substantial quantity gets exhaled and what is absorbed gets metabolized into Non cholestorol causing products.

Since we are talking about small quantities the calorie load is Insignificant, if not Irrelevant, to cause any cholesterol buildup.

I read a paper that says good cholesterol (HDL) increases after quitting tobacco and appears to be unrelated to nicotine consumption.

I'd like to hear from any folks that care to discuss their cholesterol readings since they took up the e-cig ..

Since VG and PG seem to be an oil, I'm wondering if there would be any effect ..

Or a link would be nice if this has been discussed ..
 

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Just started vaping a month ago and got bloodwork done at the same time (Canadian results):

Cholesterol - 6.26 mmol/L
LDL Cholesterol - Calculation is invalid when Triglyceride is greater than 4.52 mmol/L.
HDL Cholesterol - 0.89 mmol/L
Chol/HDL (Risk Ratio) - 7.03
Triglycerides - 4.94 - mmol/L

Also started on low dose (10mg / day) Crestor so I'll see in a few months how it looks.
 
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