What's a good inner diameter when building coils? What gauge is generally good for building? 24-28? Can you get good clouds without having to go sub-ohm? What build is really good for cloud chasing? Pls help and thank you 
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^--- Nice wrappings on that =)
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It all depends what you are aiming for really, size of the rebuild deck will really determine how big an ID you will be allowed to fit inside of it as well as coil length. As far as what wire gauge, really up to personal preference, myself I prefer 26awg at 2 to 3mm ID depending on the deck size in most of my drippers in the .4 to .6ohm range where my rebuildable tanks I like 28awg on a 2 or 2.5mm ID 1.2 to 1.5ohm range most times.
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It all depends what you are aiming for really, size of the rebuild deck will really determine how big an ID you will be allowed to fit inside of it as well as coil length. As far as what wire gauge, really up to personal preference, myself I prefer 26awg at 2 to 3mm ID depending on the deck size in most of my drippers in the .4 to .6ohm range where my rebuildable tanks I like 28awg on a 2 or 2.5mm ID 1.2 to 1.5ohm range most times.
Always remember battery safety when your trying to go for clouds! As @dbrandt01 said, most people will tell ya to go low. Steam Engine is a great resource too build exactly what you want which is really helpful. I personally linger around .6ohms using 26g kanthal. 24 Gage is too hard to build with regularly for my taste and 28 is too flimsy when rewicking. All opinion of course, I've also found I prefer larger coils 3mm id vs a lot of my friends who will build micros do to they tend to not create a hot vape. Just got to see what you like.
I find that lower than 26 gauge is like working with a wire coat hanger, higher than 30 is like angel hair and you need a coil 6 inches long! 2.5 to 3 ml, 28 to 26 gauge Kanthal is pretty standard, .5 to 1.00 ohms for clouds and flavor.
I never use smaller than 28g to make the coils with the 28 I use 2mm or 2.4mm id 26g and 24g I use 2.4 22 or lower I use 3mm. I personally done have a taste for higher resistance coils so highest I go to is usually .4 main thing is try several types of builds until you find what you like and always be as safe as possible.
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I use 28 gauge kanthal wire for all of my builds. 3 mm inner diameter, simply because its easier to wick.
1.5 ohm single microcoil for my Kayun. 0.6 ohm dual microcoils for my rebuildable dripper.
I'm not a cloud chaser per say, at least not one who could compete in a cloud chasing competition. My focus is on flavor.
Please follow battery safety standards and know how to use an Ohm's Law calculator and Ohm reader. Never attempt to draw more amperage from your battery than what it has to give.
1.5 ohm single microcoil for my Kayun. 0.6 ohm dual microcoils for my rebuildable dripper.
I'm not a cloud chaser per say, at least not one who could compete in a cloud chasing competition. My focus is on flavor.
Please follow battery safety standards and know how to use an Ohm's Law calculator and Ohm reader. Never attempt to draw more amperage from your battery than what it has to give.
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Just wanted to mention that Im using a 3 ohm coil on my rda at 22 watts and getting tons of vapor.What's a good inner diameter when building coils? What gauge is generally good for building? 24-28? Can you get good clouds without having to go sub-ohm? What build is really good for cloud chasing? Pls help and thank you
I pretty much always use 3mm id. My tugboats kanthal builds are all 3mm id, my lemo drop single micro coil 3mm id. Any rba sections I use are all 3mm id lol.
On my mech mod I usually use 22g or 24g. For an rda and a regulated device I'd recommend 24g and I'd suggest keeping your build over 0.4. There is really no reason to build so low if your using a regulated device. My lemo drop with a 1.6 ohm coil with about 12 wraps of 26g kanthal puts out plenty of vapor and flavor at 22.5 watts.
If your using a mech I sure hope you know all about ohms law and battery safety. 22g is great for a low build and more surface area but you might want to keep your builds above 0.2 assuming of course you have a battery that can handle that build.
On my mech mod I usually use 22g or 24g. For an rda and a regulated device I'd recommend 24g and I'd suggest keeping your build over 0.4. There is really no reason to build so low if your using a regulated device. My lemo drop with a 1.6 ohm coil with about 12 wraps of 26g kanthal puts out plenty of vapor and flavor at 22.5 watts.
If your using a mech I sure hope you know all about ohms law and battery safety. 22g is great for a low build and more surface area but you might want to keep your builds above 0.2 assuming of course you have a battery that can handle that build.
My go to is 8 wrap 28ga 2.5mm id single coil in a tank on a mech mod
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my favorite one is 24 GA. 6 wraps at 2.5mm will do for me. came out at around 0.6 ohm and although by no means it cloud competition worthy but it chucks the clouds. 27-30 watts with that on lemo 2
Resistance doesn't matter (well maybe a tad) when using regulated devices. The whole reason "sub ohm" became a thing was because people were using mech mods that could only put out around 4 volts, you had to build low to get the watts necessary for "cloud vaping."
People still seem to think you need sub ohm for a big vape. It all boils down to watts. You can vape a 1 ohm coil and get clouds as easy as a 0.1 with the right power through the coil.
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People still seem to think you need sub ohm for a big vape. It all boils down to watts. You can vape a 1 ohm coil and get clouds as easy as a 0.1 with the right power through the coil.
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I've been running 30ga dual dragon coils on my 30w istick with a doge clone.
I switch between two nano coil sizes. One I wrap on a 24ga wire and the other I wrap on a T-pin which is a little larger than a big paperclip. I do about 10-15 wraps depending on method and usually ohm out at 1- 1.3 total (2-2.6 ohms each coil).
So far these have been my favorite style of build for what I have.
I switch between two nano coil sizes. One I wrap on a 24ga wire and the other I wrap on a T-pin which is a little larger than a big paperclip. I do about 10-15 wraps depending on method and usually ohm out at 1- 1.3 total (2-2.6 ohms each coil).
So far these have been my favorite style of build for what I have.
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^ that is nice. I dig the 24g. Thinking I need to re do my build :/
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8 wraps of 29g on a 2mm Coil Master post. Dual coil comes out to .5ish. Nothing crazy.
Thanks! I picked up 100' of 30ga and have been building coils for the last few days just for fun and to get the hang of it. It's definitely half art, half science.
I've messed around with a few multi-strand coils but haven't found any advantage so far with my little istick (not to say there are not any advantages). But I've been digging this 30ga kanthal wire, very easy to work with.
Here's one I just finished up. Going though its paces. On my 30w istick, it works well enough!
I've messed around with a few multi-strand coils but haven't found any advantage so far with my little istick (not to say there are not any advantages). But I've been digging this 30ga kanthal wire, very easy to work with.
Here's one I just finished up. Going though its paces. On my 30w istick, it works well enough!
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What's a good inner diameter when building coils? What gauge is generally good for building? 24-28? Can you get good clouds without having to go sub-ohm? What build is really good for cloud chasing? Pls help and thank you
1: good inner diameter:
seems to be 2mm to 3mm.
I have been experimenting with 3.5mm
at 4mm, my cotton tends to get soggy and sink like cloth.
People who use more sponge-like wicking material can wrap bigger diameters I expect.
2: What gauge for building:
28 gauge was the standard for a long time.
With the rise in higher powered mods, maybe 26 and 24 seem to be becoming pretty popular.
3: Good clouds without sub-ohm:
Yes.
Instead of subohm you supervolt!
4: build for max clouds:
sounds like claptons.
these days you can even buy prefab claptons instead of having to wrap them yourself.
That's a long coil; the center will likely dryout;
for a rule of thumb you want the length of the coil to be less than 2 internal diameters for a compact coil.
otherwise you could use a spaced coil;
If you find that coil burning out the center, try increasing the diameter.
Yah, I would usually agree that the coil is a bit long but with the dragon build, I never seem to get a dry hit provided the cotton has been juiced properly.
I did notice on some of my experimental coils that I was definitely getting a dry center. Especially on the builds that were "floating on clouds" that's why I started trying the dragon method. I seem to have found a happy medium with this though.
I did notice on some of my experimental coils that I was definitely getting a dry center. Especially on the builds that were "floating on clouds" that's why I started trying the dragon method. I seem to have found a happy medium with this though.
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