Coil Winding Made Easy

[nicotime]

Here is another way to wind nichrome coils for atty experiments. I soaked the silica first with a dyed PG for ease of handling and better visual. The red tube I made by taking a piece of heat-shrink tubing and shrinking one end around a metal rod about .080". Then trim the small end a little so the coil slides off easy because the heat will make a ridge at the very end.

Then take the wire your going to use for the coil and loop it around the middle of the silica fiber.

Then put the wire through the big end of the tube and pull through until the silica loop is barely out of the tube.

Next hold the tube and wire in one hand and spin the big end of the tube with the other hand keeping the wire tight and spaced the way you want.

You should end up with something like this.

Next carefully slide the coil off of the tube at the same time pulling the silica out of the tube.

Wala...no trying to stuff of feed silica through a coil.

Once out you can dry it and fluff it slightly or run a pin up the middle to expand it against the coil. It will expand out after using it a few times anyway though.
On note...I found it best to use wire that has not been heated as it keeps its shape better.

So here is an experiment I was playing with that I made this coil for...hey...something to do......

And it worked...BUT;
!!!!USING GLASS LIKE THIS MAY SHATTER WHEN HEATED...ATTEMPT AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!

YouTube - Atty Test


This is a test of the emergency vaping system...BEEEEEEEP...this is only a test....if this was an actual vaping emergency you would be instructed where to go to get your own emergency vaping supplies....this is only a test.

 

[MrPuff]

That is quite awesome

 

[petercro]

Great test.
Question.
Does the silica fibre act as a wick.
If so could the test be repeated without the bottle of liquid, but instead standing the test tube
up in a small dish of liquid, so it would wick itself and draw up all the liquid in the dish?

 

[Charged]

Nice work nico, petercro has a really good point. You would think as the liquid atomizes in the coil it would naturally pull more fluid up the silica fiber.

Must have been fun getting those leads out through the holes in the glass tube.

 

[nicotime]

Thanks guys. Yes, the silica is the same thing that's used in the ecigs. I actually bought 4 different types from MSC, a silica rope and woven sleeve and the same in fiberglass. The silica rope had too much loose fibers in it and had a mixed up texture to it but the sleeve had nice straight fibers as you can see in the coil making. The fiberglass burnt and breaks too easy. I did try having the wick sitting in fluid in a previous test, but it is very slow to replenish the coil. It might work for someone who takes a few hits and puts it down for awhile but not for us hosers. lol

What I am shooting for is a see through atty to be able to see whats going on, one that snaps in place making contact with the coil wire by spring clips so no soldering is needed, and just plug the hose back in. The back end would have a silicone plug with a small air hole to catch any excess fluid for the wick to pick up and create a venturi effect, again pop it out, replace the coil and wick...plug it back in.

I forgot to mention I had a tube stuck in the left side that I was sucking on the whole time and you can see I still couldn't get all the vapor.

Charged...It wasn't too bad running the wire, I just took my trusty Foredom flex shaft tool with a diamond bit and bored tiny holes in a glass bottle stopper. I am surprised it didn't shatter when heated though. I need to get some hi-temp borosilicate glass tube called VYCOR. I am going to email them today to beg them to send me some samples.

I guess I better put a "do not do this at home" warning on there huh.

 

[petercro]

Nicotime.
I know I'm a pain but as you are working on this concept and I'm not.
Could a more absorbent wick be used inside a silica wick shell to increase draw speed.
I know I don't want much, but it's worth asking the question.
If you could get this to work, you would never have to pump a Juice bottle again.
The wick would do if for you!!!!!!!!!!1111

Petercro.

 

[nicotime]

Petercro...you guys are never a PITA...ask away. Very good theory but I may have not explained the sleeve right. I am not using the whole sleeve as it is huge, even though it is sold as 3/8 of an inch, I can stick my thumb up through it. It can expand quite a bit, same for the 1/4" Fiberglass. I am just using some of the strands of it. I put a picture here to show the different types of wick I have. Like I said the Fiberglass is out of the question...even cutting it makes it fly everywhere. The silica rope has almost a cotton texture and if you move or shake it there is a lot of particles flying off of it. The sleeve strands are perfect. I will keep you suggestion in mind for sure while I am experimenting, thanks. One thing I wonder about is say we do find a way to get it to wick that easy...will we need a control to keep it from the self siphoning effect? Another thing I noticed is the peak vapor doesn't happen until the wick is in the middle of supersaturation and dry. So too much even without flooding is not necessarily a good thing either.

Guys...please feel free too ask questions and bust my chops as needed...because payback are hell...LOL Just remember I aint no rocket scientist either....HEY...Rocket Booster parts...anybody have NASA's number???

 

[perlion]

I'm glad I saw this thread. I was about to order some rope, but will get the silica sleeve instead.

Very smart and simple wrapping method.


Thank You.

 

[nicotime]

If you get it though MSC the item number is 31951064
3/8" ID 2300F CTL HI TEMP SILICA SLEEVE PAK

One foot would make thousands of attys.

Also...make sure you wash it gently before separating the strand.

 

[Vapinginjapan]

Instead of using glass could you use transparent modeling clay? Sculpy or whatever. Translucent, not transparent. But might take high temps a bit better.

 

[nicotime]

Instead of using glass could you use transparent modeling clay? Sculpy or whatever. Translucent, not transparent. But might take high temps a bit better.

You could I guess but it wouldn't wick the fluid too well. For dripping it would work...some have a ceramic core.

 

[nicotime]

I think I may have a simple answer to the juice feeding problem guys. I gotta go get my kids soon so I will try to do another vid later.

 

[nicotime]

Hmmmmm...maybe I better go for a patent on this first.....


No pumps...no squeezing...no carts...if you can pick your nose you could do this.....

 

[5cardstud]

All I do is put the wicking next to a small needle and do the winding then pull out the needle and it's done. The wicking is already installed. For the silica I called a furnace/fireplace guy and he let me go through his cutoffs and ends from previous jobs and give me some. Nice guy and if I need any work done I'll call him.

 

[nicotime]

Yep that works too...but I'm talking atty design now...may have to move this post...dunno yet

 

[ejoker]

Hmmmmm...maybe I better go for a patent on this first.....


No pumps...no squeezing...no carts...if you can pick your nose you could do this.....

now i have to practice picking my nose ...

 

[nicotime]

lol...so easy a caveman...well you know

 

[5cardstud]

I like that design in the glass tube. I was thinking about that too but you got a better design.

 

[5cardstud]

now i have to practice picking my nose ...

I think you can get an automatic nosepicker on craigslist.

 

[nicotime]

Yep...working on it now...and helping son with homework...

More to come...


I need that anyway 5card...lol