coils question?

[wheelie]

Read it many times. Here it is. Answer is VW. I use SS for everything. Only wire I use anymore. With all the Eleafs out there, when have you heard of one blowing up? Or any regulated mod for that matter that was not due to charging?

"I just changed my coil and I used the replacement coil for my Heracles plus its 0.2 ohm 316l stainless so I'm just wondering which mode to use on my tc40 eleaf"

 

[the dog]

Thanks guys for all your help

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

the short answer is yes, an internal batt mod can and will vent/explode under pressure. & yes, a regulated/protected mod can/will and has, many times, exploded, due to the batt being under pressure. The user's responsibility is to take-note of the mod's capabilities, and adhere to them strictly. The circuit that "protects" an APV user from experiencing a catastrophic battery venting/failure can be "stressed" just as a battery w/out protection can be stressed. when said circuit is sufficiently stressed, it will cease to continue protecting the mod & mod-user. when this happens, the mod's battery will vent/explode. the internal battery inside of these mods is usually NOT a "safer-chemistry" high-drain IMR battery. the batteries inside of internal batt mods is usually a LiMn battery, which can actually explode with more force than a "safer chemistry" IMR battery. they can be more dangerous than IMR.

It is our responsibility as vapers to educate ourseleves on how to use the devices safely and properly. you must adhere to each individual device's specs. you cannot use a 0.5 ohm coil on a device that is incapable of sub-ohm vaping, for example. you cannot draw more amps than what the battery is rated for. this is why every vaper should read-up-on and understand amperage-draw. each vaper should know & understand OHM's-LAW & use/abide-by it. If you have Titanium coils, you CANNOT use them on a mod that either does-not have temperature-control mode, or a mod that does-not have TC-mode for Ti specifically. (I was/am unaware of whether or not you can use SS on a TC mod w/out SS TC-mode, this is because I do not use TC mode for the most-part, and when I do use TC mode, I usually read-up on TC as a refresher course, and it's usually Ni or Ti, never SS) You must NEVER over-drain or over-charge a battery. You must NEVER build a coil and fire it on an unprotected mod without 1st ensuring it is not a short.

theres plenty u can do to ensure your safety. u just need to seek out the knowledge and information.

Are you saying that using a device within the range of the specified resistance will make the device blow his face off and burn his house down and kill his family?


SS coils are made for TC or VV/VW mode...you just need a device that has the settings, the istick40TC doesn't do TC for anything but NI200 but it isn't going to kill you if you try using it in TC mode

 

[Plumes.91]

no i thought i specified that i was mistaken and I didn't know about SS temperature controlled vaping at-all. I had no idea that you could use SS coils without SS temperature control mode safely, it's NEWS2me! I still know nothing about stainless steel coil vaping.... I have heard that SS coils have the potential to release unwanted chemicals? That is just something that I've heard, not something that is truth.... I would have (and used-to) think that stainless-steel coils are SAFE.... but from what I've heard, that is not true.

& as-far as using the iStick in it's temp controlled mode, with the correct temp-control coils, in this case, the correct temp-control coils being Ni200, correct? - Well, I believe that if you use any device with the correct coil, in the correct way, and you employ safe-practices to the BEST of your ability, i believe that your chances of having a battery fail/vent/explode/etc are very slim. 99.8% most-likely, right? right???

But, if you use a device in a way that goes against the safest practices, I do-not support this. If the battery vents due to user misuse, that is the user's fault, right? & yes, the chances of a battery failing even-though the user is practicing SAFE battery practices are VERY/EXTREMELY SLIM, TO NONE, right? But, as we have seen with many rechargeable batt devices (esp out of china) in the past, even if one uses them as safely as he/she possibly can, they can STILL vent/explode/etc.... It's an unfortunate fact. Today's rechargeable battery technology is just NOT up-to where we'd like to see it, right? They really need to become MORE-safe for us to avoid venting issues whether user error or not. (manufacturer's error is not ruled-out and can happen) But yes, using your iStick (or any mod) properly, and with the correct coil, in the correct mode, at the correct resistance, in the correct voltage/wattage-range, with the correct amperage battery- IS SAFE TO DO!! So, by all means, do it!!

 

[Plumes.91]

SS can be used in TC if you have a SS setting. It can also be used in VW. You just don't vape temp control coils, NI and TI in VW because it gets way to hot and gives off gases that are dangerous to ones health. Most TC coils are .15 and are fine in your unit. Your mode has a screen on it to tell you the ohms. You are running a regulated mod. what you need a ohms reader for factory coils when your mod has one I do not understand. Think someone needs some sleep. To many beer watching football perhaps. LOL CHEERS!

I am the LAST person you'd hear saying "you need an ohm reader even though you have a regulated mod that reads resistance" lol. I just got into a little sciffle with sum1 in another thread because he/she had said that "you should still get an ohm reader because today's regulated mods aren't reliable enough to read the resistance of your coil" and I said that that statement was ridiculous. So idk where you got that I said that you should use a resistance-reader even-though u have a regulated mod" heck no. I truly believe that today's regulated mod's have resistance reading tech that is sufficient for reading coil ohms.

As far as you calling into question my statement that you should NOT vape stainless steel coils in a mod that does not offer stainless steel temperature control mode- Yes. I stand-by this statement, as, before I wrote it, i had no clue that using SS (stainless steel) coils on a mod without SS-MODE was safe. I still have read no posts/articles/etc stating that vaping SS coils without SS mode is safe. If it is, then I apologize, I had/&-have, no idea whether or not it is safe, so don't take my word for it. I would not personally vape SS coils on-top of a mod w/out stainless steel mode, because I just haven't read anything to tell me that vaping SS coils on a mod w/out SS mode IS a safe practice. I HAVE read, however, that vaping SS coils can emit unwanted substances. (I have no clue if that is true, however) The truth is, I would not go out of my way to purchase SS coil heads, because I only use Ni200 & Ti coil-heads in temperature control mode. It's simple as that, lol. I simply don't know enough about any other (including SS) coil metal type (other than KANTHAL) to vape it without wondering if it's safe. Although I have been using my ceramic wick Target Tank, even-though the jury is still out for debate on whether or not the ceramic wick material is completely "safe" for use in our APVs. Whatever. I really dont GAF whether coils emit chemicals or not... I just don't vape what I don't know about, simple-as-that. haha. And I'm sure I WAS overly-tired when I authored that post.... I'm ALWAYS over-tired!! lol. & As-for using a 0.15 ohm stainless or Ti or Ni coil- I don't typically use a resistance that low. The lowest I normallly build is around 0.5 and the lowest I've gone w/prebuilt coils is around 0.3 ohms.... I don't vape what I don't know, so I wouldn't want to comment on vaping a 0.15 ohm coil of any metal type...

I have no issue with others vaping diff metal coils so-long as they're doing it safely, & wen I wrote the above post, I was under the impression that vaping a SS coil outside of SS-mode = unsafe.

 

[Nikea Tiber]

The temperature of an coil in an ecig isn't going to approach welding temperature under basically all vaping circumstances.
For those of you that slept through physics, let me educate you on the phase changes of states of matter:

Solid > liquid > gas

The process of sublimation (solids changing to gas without an intermediary liquid phase, such as dry ice evaporating to carbon dioxide) in metals requires a certain set of environmental variables that aren't going to happen in your atomizer.

There is known material safety data on a wealth of possible oxides that could be produced by a length of glowing resistance wire. You can look up the vapor pressure of the substance and decide if it is likely to be a gas in the environmental conditions it is created in (hint: it isnt.).

Stainless steel is definitely safe for any APV type as long as you observe battery safety guidelines. I would go as far to say that titanium is as well, though I know I'm about to get tarred and feathered for this admission. I don't trust ni200 and won't vape off of it, fwiw.

 

[wheelie]

@Plumes.91 - I can agree with your clarification. Your first post scared me and made me want to quit vaping. My point was why scare people to death when their is no need. Regulated mods as you know don't fire if under ohms. Is there a battery on this earth anyone truly trust? Even the best company on earth can be fooled and quality control can miss things. As I have always said, When I got into vaping I never thought it was like taking vitamins. But we try to weed out the things that are questionable. CHEERS!

 

[EverPresentNoob]

Im just curious as to why someone who keeps stating that they dont know anything about SS, keeps posting his scare tactic thoughts about how unsafe it is to use...