Combining 2 Pre Mixed (PG + VG) juices for desired PG:VG and Nic Level

[paddymx]

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Abstract:
This is designed to combine a PG based pre mixed juice and a VG based pre mixed juice to reach a desired PG/VG ratio.

Note: Use ejuicemeup calculator tool to see the resulting nic level
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You can fine tune it by playing with the number of decimal points in the test value. This test value assumes a 10 ml finished amount of liquid. Additional finished amounts are provided in the chart below.

No warranties are expressed/implied and this is for Public Domain use ONLY. Use at your own risk. paddymx on ECF forum. 9/18/2012.

Thanks to Dustin Taylor(aka TaylorMade on ECF) of MyFreedomSmokes.com for help with the math!

 

[bluecat]

I have been thinking about this. I tried it out but got confused with my limited brain power.

Suppose I wanted 10ml mix. Nic strength doesn't matter at this point. I add 5ml 50/50 and 5 mil 100 vg. The calc says I will get 15/85 pg vg.

Would that be correct? I have been trying to figure that out for awhile now. I always come up with 25/75 in my simple math.

 

[paddymx]

I have been thinking about this. I tried it out but got confused with my limited brain power.

Suppose I wanted 10ml mix. Nic strength doesn't matter at this point. I add 5ml 50/50 and 5 mil 100 vg. The calc says I will get 15/85 pg vg.

Would that be correct? I have been trying to figure that out for awhile now. I always come up with 25/75 in my simple math.

My calc says 25/75. I was thinking you might have input 100 in the %PG in VG field instead of 0. But when I input 100 in the %PG in VG field I get 75 in the green area meaning a 75/25 ratio.

The calculator assumes you are after a particular PG/VG in the final product. With the figures you stated your resulting PG/VG would be 25/75.Use the inputs below and see what you get. Please see the screen shot below.

In the top portion(solves for 10ml) the inputs would be 5(ml) in the "test value" PG field, %PG in PG = 50, %PG in VG = 0, resulting PG/VG = 25/75. The calculator is "solving for PG". By tweaking the "test value" PG, you determine your final PG/VG, shown in the green area, in this case 25 PG, meaning 25/75. The yellow grid shows the PG/VG amounts needed for additional amounts using that PG/VG ratio.

In the bottom portion, the inputs require you input what you want your VG to be plus the ratios and finished amount.

The trick here is to tweak the "test value" until you get the desired PG in the finished product( green area).

This is good. You are the beta tester!

Screen shot:

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[drummerskey]

that just sealed it....................I am not going to DIY

 

[bluecat]

that just sealed it....................I am not going to DIY

Ha! Made me smile.

 

[bluecat]

Beta Tester.. wierd..

I figured I was doing something wrong in the ss. Dang I have no clue what I did. I thought I did that.

Well for some strange reason I was putting in 25 in the first pg box. Ha! putting 50 in confirms my math. I was beginning to doubt my mathematical mind.

I did some DIY of 50/50 and have some 30/70 from a vendor Which should be 40% pg.

Pretty cool mate. Now to get to convert me from drop flavoring to mls. I hate measuring.

 

[mudhill]

Ha! Made me smile.

to many numbers for him i guess. LOL

 

[mudhill]

Beta Tester.. wierd..

I figured I was doing something wrong in the ss. Dang I have no clue what I did. I thought I did that.

Well for some strange reason I was putting in 25 in the first pg box. Ha! putting 50 in confirms my math. I was beginning to doubt my mathematical mind.

I did some DIY of 50/50 and have some 30/70 from a vendor Which should be 40% pg.

Pretty cool mate. Now to get to convert me from drop flavoring to mls. I hate measuring.

drops are to time consuming,unless your dealing with small quantity.

 

[paddymx]

Beta Tester.. wierd...
Pretty cool mate. Now to get to convert me from drop flavoring to mls. I hate measuring.

There always has to be a first victim!

 

[paddymx]

drops are to time consuming,unless your dealing with small quantity.

And besides that, how many drops was that again. Dang, have to start all over, and over and over.

 

[bluecat]

drops are to time consuming,unless your dealing with small quantity.

Yup I did 10 ml only once and that was pure menthol. I am still using 5ml tests. So it is basically a drop or 2. No big deal at that level. I have to figure out what I am doing fist.

Sorry pad for going off kilter there mate.

 

[paddymx]

Yup I did 10 ml only once and that was pure menthol. I am still using 5ml tests. So it is basically a drop or 2. No big deal at that level. I have to figure out what I am doing fist.

Sorry pad for going off kilter there mate.

Not to beat a dead horse here, but, because "drops" are not an accurate measure. Each liquid has different viscosities and all droppers/tips do not produce the same number of drops per ml. So, I always use ml's for mixing.

 

[bluecat]

Not to beat a dead horse here, but, because "drops" are not an accurate measure. Each liquid has different viscosities and all droppers/tips do not produce the same number of drops per ml. So, I always use ml's for mixing.

Nah you can beat that horse all ya want. If you go into a chef and ask him for his receipe do you think he is going to say 4 cups of this 3 cups of that? Nah.

Everyone measuring skills aren't the same. Also a little variety is nice. I really don't think the liquid vendors out there get the exact recipe each time. I know because each batch I get taste different. I have been to 15 different liquid vendors and the second order from them was never the same. Most of time it seems they add extra water in it.

I'll stick with drops. I still measure the nicquid in mls though.

Back on point. I have 24 mg SI that I am thinking about diluting with some of my DYI. I am going to give your calc a test run on it. I usually do 6 mg, but I feel I may need a higher nic because work has been a bit stressful. I'll give you an update how that goes. Your calc should be perfect for it.

 

[paddymx]

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Back on point. I have 24 mg SI that I am thinking about diluting with some of my DYI. I am going to give your calc a test run on it. I usually do 6 mg, but I feel I may need a higher nic because work has been a bit stressful. I'll give you an update how that goes. Your calc should be perfect for it.

Let me know your ratios and mg's. Your SI is 24mg/80/20. Your DIY 6mg/??/??. The sheet doesn't calculate for a desired nic level, it just tells you the result. so 24 + 6 = 15mg. But you should be able to change the PG/VG. Come to think of it, I might need to double check the nic thing using ejuicemeup tool!

EDIT: just checked ejuicemeup tool. If you mix 24mg/6ml + 6mg/4ml for a total of 10, your nic level will be 16.8mg. My calc won' work in that instance. Mine shows 15mg. Only valid for juices with the same strengths. NEED TO REDO the SHEET!

EDIT #2: Removed the nic calc from spreadsheet. Now direct user to ejuicemeup tool!

Hope it does what you need.

 

[bluecat]

Let me know your ratios and mg's. Your SI is 24mg/80/20. Your DIY 6mg/??/??. The sheet doesn't calculate for a desired nic level, it just tells you the result. so 24 + 6 = 15mg. But you should be able to change the PG/VG. Come to think of it, I might need to double check the nic thing using ejuicemeup tool!

EDIT: just checked ejuicemeup tool. If you mix 24mg/6ml + 6mg/4ml for a total of 10, your nic level will be 16.8mg. My calc won' work in that instance. Mine shows 15mg. Only valid for juices with the same quantities. NEED TO REDO the SHEET!

Hope it does what you need.

It will be a few before I try it. I have a cheerleading thing to go tonight for one of my girls. Another girl is playing in the high school band and is marching during a game tomorrow night. They are playing the school my wife teaches at. Should be interesting to meet some of my wife's hoodlum students.

So that gets me to sat or maybe sun.

It is 24 mg SI which I believe is 80/20. I will be using 6mg 50/50. I want to get it around 10 mg nic.. I have some pure vg but I think that is out of the calcs reach using 3 liquids. 24 blows me away and 6 mg I can vap for an hour without getting my nic on those rough days.

Yup that is what I was looking for it to do. Grrr..

Thanks for checking though mate.

 

[paddymx]

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It is 24 mg SI which I believe is 80/20. I will be using 6mg 50/50. I want to get it around 10 mg nic.. I have some pure vg but I think that is out of the calcs reach using 3 liquids. 24 blows me away and 6 mg I can vap for an hour without getting my nic on those rough days.

Yup that is what I was looking for it to do. Grrr..

Thanks for checking though mate.

: Removed the nic calc from spreadsheet. Now direct user to ejuicemeup tool!

Sorry, the problem with mine was it didn't account for volumes But, I'll start looking into it..

Just ran the numbers. Your result would be:

If you do 2ml of the 24mg & 8ml of the 50/50 you get 9.6mg strength at a 56/44! I do 55/45 but the flavor would be less than the 80/20 but a tad better than the 50/50. Download the new sheet . Test at 1ml would be .2 of the 80/20 and .8 of the 50/50 with a 9.6mg strength.

 

[bluecat]

Thanks mate. Ill give her a try. I coula used a bigger nic hit tonight. I didn't want to be on the floor with 24mg. I realy don't want to go higher because i want to quit the nic too. I sometimes would like a quicker hit too instead of the 15 minutes vaping it takes now and that will be perfect.