confused about volt and wattage....

[guccirush9876]

hi, I have a innokin vv4 itaste battery, and ive got a kanger mini pro tank, im always changing around the volt and watt, as I don't haveclue how to keep it, I know its personal taste, but I don't want to ruin my battery, some times ive had both volt and watt quite close as in5v and 6w, but today ive got it on 13w and 5.4v,and seems to be better hit, so is it btter to have the volt low and the watt quite high?or do you have them more even?

 

[Izan]

Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[guccirush9876]

Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
wow!! that's confused even more, lol

Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[nyiddle]

The watts and volts are proportional according to your resistance. When you set the watts, the device will output the appropriate voltage to attain that wattage, and when you set the voltage, the device will output the appropriate wattage to attain those volts.

The actual formula can be laid out as, "The resistance R in ohms (Ω) is equal to the squared voltage V in volts (V) divided by the power P in watts (W)" or, "R=V^2/P" or,

In essence, you set one or the other (voltage or wattage) and the device adjusts one or the other according to the setting. A lot of people have this misconception that "Voltage Mode" and "Wattage Mode" are different things, when in reality -- in the end -- you can output the exact same power using either setting. Some people prefer watts because there's more numbers to work with (ie: the range of 7-30W, assuming you have a 30W device) whereas voltage usually is only variable from 3-6V. But because they're one in the same, if your device's max output is 6V or 30W, you can't be firing at 7V just because you're at 30W with the appropriate resistance coil. The device will only output either 6V or 30W.

 

[guccirush9876]

I don't understand, I feel silly as b4 I got this battery I had a socilites one and now with this vv one I don't get it is there a right and wrong way to set it,

 

[guccirush9876]

The watts and volts are proportional according to your resistance. When you set the watts, the device will output the appropriate voltage to attain that wattage, and when you set the voltage, the device will output the appropriate wattage to attain those volts.

The actual formula can be laid out as, "The resistance R in ohms (Ω) is equal to the squared voltage V in volts (V) divided by the power P in watts (W)" or, "R=V^2/P" or,

hey thanks for reply, my screen says 1.5 im guessin ohms (I don't know what that meansand ive got it at 5.4v and 11.5w

 

[dcfluegel]

if you adjust your wattage, to find your 'sweet spot' where you get good vapor production and are satisfied with flavor, device should automatically adjust so that it is delivering correct voltage... i generally don't mess with voltage adjustments, i simply adjust wattage to get the vape i want and let the device figure out the voltage

 

[AbigGRNboot]

You can't change both watts and voltage. Changing one changes the other. They are both different measurements of the power you are applying to you atomizer.
When you raise one the other goes up.

In my experience using the wattage gives you finer control of your vaping experience. (a small change in power when you go up one number)
Using volts will make more drastic changes in the vaping experience. (a larger change when going up one number)

Basically, I use watts for better control, and ignore the volts.

 

[Izan]

Sorry about that...


Volts go in, Watts come out.
In the middle is your atomizer (resistance)

In VV mode- YOU control the VOLTS going in to the Atomizer. (the more gas you give the motor, the faster you go.)

In VW mode - YOU control the WATTS coming out of the Atomizer (cruise control, Up hill, down hill, on flats..it holds your speed at a constant.)

HTH
Cheers
I

 

[Dampmaskin]

You can't change both watts and voltage. Changing one changes the other.

What he said.

Adjust your watts to taste. Forget about the volts. Enjoy the vape.

 

[nyiddle]

I don't understand, I feel silly as b4 I got this battery I had a socilites one and now with this vv one I don't get it is there a right and wrong way to set it,

There is no right or wrong. Pick either voltage or wattage, adjust till it's to your preference, vape on! I recommend playing with the Steam-Engine calculator that was linked above. It'll help you understand Ohm's law and the calculations that the device is doing when you set either the voltage or the wattage (or use a different resistance atomizer).

hey thanks for reply, my screen says 1.5 im guessin ohms (I don't know what that meansand ive got it at 5.4v and 11.5w

So.. That sounds a bit odd. To explain it with the specs of your device, your resistance is set at 1.5 ohms. That's a static value, it's only variable if you change the coil/head.

The wattage at 5.4V to a 1.5 ohm would be 19.44W. Meanwhile, the voltage at 11.5W through a 1.5 ohm coil would be ~4.2V. You see the discrepancy, right? Now, I know your device has a 15W limit, so this means that when you set the voltage to 5.4, you're actually pushing the max wattage (15W). It also has a 6V max. This means that if your attached atomizer was a higher resistance, you'd be able to blast it at this 6V max and it'd actually be outputting 6V. As it is, with a 1.5 ohm coil, the highest your voltage can go is 4.7V. Beyond that and you're hitting the upper limit of the wattage. I realize that might be a little bit confusing, but essentially, you're not doing anything wrong, just keep on vaping with whatever's comfortable to you.

And if it helps at all (or confuses things more), I usually vape a .5 ohm coil at around 60W, which is equivalent to about 5.5V.

 

[AbigGRNboot]

My daily vape is a kayfun with a 1.5 ohm coil. I run it 6-6.5 watts which the mod gives me around 3 volts. Great flavor, ok clouds, very cool vape.
Some like it hot, I like it cool.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Ohms law is an elementary principle in electricity that is nothing more than a inverse proportional relationship between voltage, current, and resistance........... The problem with lots of folks is that they use the law but don't really know what any of those three quantities really are.

Voltage is simply an invisible force or "pressure" that pushes electricity (current) through a wire or other substance. Without any voltage ( or push) being present, then you have no electricity flow. Current is just a measure of how many electrons are flowing past a point in a specific amount of time. Resistance is simply the opposition that something has towards current flowing through it. The higher the resistance something has then the less it will allow current to flow through it.

An easy way to mentally view any basic electrical circuit is to use house plumbing and pipes as an analogy.... Imagine the pipes that carry water as the wires. Also imagine the water as being the electrons (electricity flow, or current)......... Also imagine that you have a pressure pump attached to those pipes that pushes on the water in order to make it flow. This pressure pump could be considered to be voltage (ie: a battery)......... Just like a water pump pushes water through pipes the same thing applies in any circuit. It is the battery (voltage) that pushes/pulls and causes electrons to flow (current) through a coil of wire. The resistances of various coils and wires differ depending upon what substance they are made from, their physical length and things of that nature.

All as you have to know being a vaper is that either an increase in Voltage, or an increase in wattage will cause more current flow through your coils. For you it doesn't really matter which one you use because they both will have the same effect. Using wattage settings is far easier and will be less confusing for you. The way these new mods are designed it that they will automatically adjust voltage to the proper level if you have adjusted the wattage and vice verse.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Like others have said, you can't adjust both watts and volts, it is one or the other, you are either in watt mode or volt mode.
Whichever you adjusted last is the mode you're vaping in.

Some folks sure seem to like making it sound more complicated than it is.
You don't need to understand ohms law to vape, you are using a regulated APV that has built in protection circuitry, you won't ruin your battery by experimenting with power adjustments.

Most folks prefer watt mode, start off at a low power say 6.5w, gradually increase power taking a vape or three on each setting until you find what you like or you notice a burnt taste. If you get a burnt taste turn the power down.
Different pg/vg ratios, nic mg, flavors & flavorings will taste best at different power levels.
Different resistances & airflow will also affect taste, again just adjust power to your liking.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Some folks sure seem to like making it sound more complicated than it is.
You don't need to understand ohms law to vape, you are using a regulated APV that has built in protection circuitry, you won't ruin your battery by experimenting with power adjustments.
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^^ agreed .... and that's why I was trying to take some of the confusion away about ohms law.... I constantly see people on here throw it around and then say additional statements later on that shows they really don't know what the constituents of ohms law is.

On the other hand it is good for people to have an elementary grasp of electrical fundamentals, especially when using a vaping device that produces lots of current. The more electrical knowledge a person can gain (even if it's basic) then the safer they can operate a high current device. So, whenever I can, I try to provide a simple explanation of the fundamentals in hopes that it will help people understand those fundamentals better and also in the hopes that I can take some confusion away from them.

 

[guccirush9876]

^^ agreed .... and that's why I was trying to take some of the confusion away about ohms law.... I constantly see people on here throw it around and then say additional statements later on that shows they really don't know what the constituents of ohms law is.

On the other hand it is good for people to have an elementary grasp of electrical fundamentals, especially when using a vaping device that produces lots of current. The more electrical knowledge a person can gain (even if it's basic) then the safer they can operate a high current device. So, whenever I can, I try to provide a simple explanation of the fundamentals in hopes that it will help people understand those fundamentals better and also in the hopes that I can take some confusion away from them.

you did make it easy to understand, thanks

 

[AXIOM_1]

you did make it easy to understand, thanks

You are sure welcome.......... Electronics was my major in college and I spent many years in the Engineering industry.... Because electricity is invisible and foreign to many people I try my best to use analogies that will help people to understand that basic electricity concepts are not difficult at all provided that someone displays them in a non intimidating way. I try to make the abstract and invisible things easy to understand. I am glad it may have helped you

 

[guccirush9876]

but I hate to be thick, but on my battery if hold the + you can turn the watts up, and if I hold the "- "I can still turn the v up and down, so say ive just set my volts at 5.2, then ive set my watts at 7.5, "then" I change the watts to 11, the volts still will stay at 5.2 that's what I don't get as ppl say change one and the other sets its self but it don't,

 

[suprtrkr]

but I hate to be thick, but on my battery if hold the + you can turn the watts up, and if I hold the "- "I can still turn the v up and down, so say ive just set my volts at 5.2, then ive set my watts at 7.5, "then" I change the watts to 11, the volts still will stay at 5.2 that's what I don't get as ppl say change one and the other sets its self but it don't,

You only think so. When you set the watts and then go to set the volts, you took it out of watt mode and put it in voltage mode to get to the volts. You don't get to set both, only one or the other. My advice is to pick one-- I prefer watts as I think it gives the best overall vape as you change tanks and juices, but you make the call-- and stick with it. Learn where to set your machine for which tank and/or juice, and then don't worry about it any more until you buy another tank or try a new flavor. Unless you actually *want* to learn about Ohm's Law so you can be a mech modder or build your own coils, in which case it's that lovely diagram up above

 

[AbigGRNboot]

I'm guessing 5.2 is your max voltage. The device isn't going to provide more than 5.2 volts at either 7.5 or 11 watts.
Your voltage isn't going up because it can't. If you lower it to 6 watts the voltage will go down.