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LauraAnn2014

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So, I've been trying to educate myself about vaping thru this site as well as youtube videos. I've seen many people that have lots & lots of the simple ego style batteries. And they use them daily, is that something I should look into? As of now, I've been vaping less than a week & have one itaste vv v3. Should I get a couple ego's well? Also, I see people just switching tanks. I have a protank right now from Kanger. But what's the difference between the protanks & clearamisers? (sorry if spelling is awful!) Anyways, what will be more cost effective? Sorry for the rambling questions! Thanks for your help in advance! This is the 3rd question I've posted in 2 days & I still feel lost lol. I need a beginners guide with a timeline!
 

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If you have an itaste, I would consider an ego battery kind of a step back, but it would be good to have as a backup. The protank is also a little more advance then a clearomizer and should give you a better experience. It all comes down to what you like, enjoy and find satisfying. A lot of people are statisfied with their egos and clearomizers, others want more flavor and vapor.
 

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Hi LauraAnn!

It's always recommended to get a back-up battery device in case something happens to your primary one. You don't want to be left vapeless! While the authentic eGo is made by JoyeTech, "eGo" has come to be a generic term for all batteries in that class - thick, one button design with 510 and eGo threading.

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An eGo has only one voltage, whereas an eGo Twist has variable voltage, like your iTaste. Vision makes a device very similar to the Twist called a Spinner. It has the same performance specs as the Twist (vv from 3.2 to 4.8), but the body is a little different.


Spinner

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spinner & twist compared

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Both the Twist and Spinner are very good entry level devices. There are lots of clones available, but I recommend people spend a little extra for an authentic JoyeTech or Vision, since there seems to be less problems with them. My Twists are still rocking after 2+ years.
 
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Welcome to ECF, and vaping. Being confused, and feeling lost is common :) There is a lot to this. Another pv is a good idea, if just for having a back up, which is always a good idea, but I'd go for one of the twist type(VV), or you could just get another itaste. Really up to you.
Here are a couple of links that may explain some things.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-carto-tank-what-guide-juice-attachments.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-10-advancing-up-vaping-ladder-egos-mods.html
 

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Yup... when new to vaping...with all the info here it's like trying to drink from a fire hose.

And the timeline is yours to decide :) Unlike with tobacco sticks, you're pretty much in the driver's seat. Hi nictone, low nicotiine, no nicotine, your choice :)

On the hardware side, it can't hurt to have backups and maybe even backups for the backups.One battery on 'active duty', one hooked to the charger.

With hundreds of flavours and dozens of models, it can be as fascinating as it can be daunting. A whole new continet to explore. But there is no 'should' or 'must'...

Enjoy that freedom as much as you want. Go overboard, clean out shop shelves. Stick to a budget. As you like :) ...

Whatever works for you is all what matters.

Can't hurt to have an ego-type though. They don't take up much space, convenient when moving round a lot or for a few discrete puffs in places wheretoo many ANTZ are on the prowl :) ...
 

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"Clearomizers" are juice devices that usually have clear tanks, hence the name Clearomizer or nickname Clearo. Many clearos have plastic tanks, but some have glass; those are often called Glassomizers or Glassos.

While there are a few coil configurations around, the two most basic designs are top coil and bottom coil.

Note: I wrote this awhile ago, so although the info is still correct there are more advances devices on the market.

This is a Vivi Nova showing the components of a top coil clearomizer. The wicks draw the liquid in the tank up to the replaceable heating element (head). Vivi Novas are sometimes called “tanks” (because they hold liquid), but operate like any other top coil clearo. The wicks come in various lengths and the heads in different resistances. Because the coil is at the top is produces a warmer vape, however due to the liquid having to wick up juices with a high vg ratio often don't vape well.
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A “BCC” (Bottom Coil Clearo), sort of like a Vivi Nova upside down. The coil is on the bottom. It still has wicks, but they are always in the liquid, so they shouldn't dry out. With a BCC, the replaceable “heads” are screwed into the bottom. There are also "BDC" (Bottom Dual Coil) and "BVC" (Bottom Vertical Coil) in this class. Bottom coil devices have become more popular than top coils recently, so there are more Bottom Coil devices on the market.

Kanger Protank is a BCC made of glass (Pyrex) and metal. It screws into the internal 510 threads. It comes with a “vanity” thread cover (cone cover) to make it look more streamlined on an eGo type battery. There is a Protank 1 that doesn't have a removable mouthpiece; a Protank 2 that can be completely taken apart; and the Protank 3, which is a BDC and uses different heads than the other two.

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The Ocelot is my new hero!!! How can you go wrong when you get that much good info, simply presented, even having visual aids!!

Lots of good info here. Get a back-up battery. Ego, twist, vv or another itaste. You don't want to drop or lose one and have to scramble to find another, or worse yet, go back to smoking. Also get a back-up drip tip or two, and maybe a cheap tank. (I'll never forget losing the drip tip to my vivi nova in a theme park a couple of years ago, and trying to use a straw so I could get a vape).

Bottom line, you want to be prepared to continue vaping, if anything happens to your current set-up.


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To expand on the above, there are mods with self contained batteries like the Vision Spinner and the Joytech Twist and there are mods that allow you to change and replace the batteries. You will pay about $25 for a Spinner or a Twist. When the built-in battery starts to fail, you buy another one and toss the old one.

A variable voltage tube mod with replaceable batteries will cost you somewhere between $50 and $75, but the 18650 battery for those is only about $10 and has higher current capability for longer vaping on a charge. The Spinner/Twist is a smaller, thinner choice and the 18650 mod is a little thicker and maybe a little longer. Since you have to have something to vape while the other one is charging, you need two each of the Spinner or Twist, but only one replaceable battery mod, since you can carry a spare charged battery where ever you go and it will be good for most of a day's vaping.

It's something to think about. The Sigelei Zmax Telescope can take several sizes of replaceable batteries and the length of the telescoping tube changes with the length of the batteries. You just screw it in or out to fit the battery length. It will take all the same atomizers and tanks that the Vision and the Joytech will use.

Sigelei Zmax V5 Telescopic
 

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Ok, now I'm confused.... My setup has a Evod USB Passthrough Battery (I have two of them, so I'm not vaporless, even though, if push came to shove, I can puff while charging), second, my setup is in five pieces. The battery (With head cap to cover usb port), a middle section, that holds the 1.2 or 1.5 ohm coil, the tank, and the mouth piece. Can I use this battery, and or tank with other batteries and or tanks?
 

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Welcome to the forums!

Laura, I have the iTaste VV3 (and the MVP2 - three of each, actually) and I love them. You should consider another battery as a backup. If you like the VV3, get another one. The MVP2 is a bit bigger, but with about 3 times the battery life of the VV3. They both work virtually the same. It's all about what you like and what works for you.

Grombor, I'm guessing that you have the 510/eGo threadings (see pics above) You can use a variety of toppers with either 510 or eGo threading. Gives you lots of alternatives :)

I would recommend (didn't see it above) to check out the user Baditude. He has a number of blog articles talking vaping basics. What are the toppers called; Batteries and safety; Vaping progression.

GOOD INFO. Might help alleviate some of the initial questions. We're here to help :)

Enjoy the :vapor:
 

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Ok, now I'm confused.... My setup has a Evod USB Passthrough Battery (I have two of them, so I'm not vaporless, even though, if push came to shove, I can puff while charging), second, my setup is in five pieces. The battery (With head cap to cover usb port), a middle section, that holds the 1.2 or 1.5 ohm coil, the tank, and the mouth piece. Can I use this battery, and or tank with other batteries and or tanks?

I'm guessing that you are counting the Evod tank as part of your battery right now. The battery looks lke this
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You can put all sorts of different devices on top of the battery as long as the device is 510 or ego threaded.

So yes, you can switch things up.


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Now, this leads to the next question, the only problem I have with my Evod 2 Tank is it's a bit tiny, I usually have to fill it once or twice a day, depending.... Truthfuly, all I'm interested in is the urge for Nicotine to be satiated, and a nice, mellow, but deep throat hit. All I can see the use for a tank is, possibly a bigger one to hold more juice. Am I wrong in this thinking? (If I want a slower air flow, I'll put my thumb over one of the air holes! :p )

I have been told to look at the Areo Mini with it's air flow abilities, but I just cannot see spending the money on it, since I get my fix, mostly from the juice.
 

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Welcome to vaping. I always keep a spare on hand just in case my Spinner goes out. Like everyone says, it's great to have an extra available in case your primary goes out. I've got a spinner with a protank battery. I find the protank to be much better than just a tank. The flavor is greater, the vape is better. I seldom use my tank anymore.
 

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Now, this leads to the next question, the only problem I have with my Evod 2 Tank is it's a bit tiny, I usually have to fill it once or twice a day, depending.... Truthfuly, all I'm interested in is the urge for Nicotine to be satiated, and a nice, mellow, but deep throat hit. All I can see the use for a tank is, possibly a bigger one to hold more juice. Am I wrong in this thinking? (If I want a slower air flow, I'll put my thumb over one of the air holes! :p )

I have been told to look at the Areo Mini with it's air flow abilities, but I just cannot see spending the money on it, since I get my fix, mostly from the juice.

The aero tank mini's liquid capacity is not that much larger than the evods. Look into a full size tank. If you want to stay with Kanger-like products you can get a protank 2 (single coil), or a protank 3 (dual coil). Neither of those have airflow control but both are Pyrex so you can use any juice in the world without worrying about cracking.
If you want airflow control (it does make a difference IMHO) you can buy a kanger airflow controller for around 6 bucks. Neither of these tanks are stainless steel. For a complete package you can go with one of the Aerotanks. They are ss, glass, and have the airflow controller. The regular holds double of what the evod holds, and the giant more than that. Personally I think the ones larger than the giant (mega or turbo) look silly on an evod.

If you want to leave kanger, the new nautilus mini w/bvc coils holds about as much as the protank/aerotank. It is getting rave reviews all across the forum. The original nautilus is a beast & I think holds 5 ml of liquid. It can also use the new bvc coils.

Does that help?


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So, I've been trying to educate myself about Vaping thru this site as well as youtube videos. I've seen many people that have lots & lots of the simple ego style batteries. And they use them daily, is that something I should look into? As of now, I've been Vaping less than a week & have one itaste vv v3. Should I get a couple ego's well? Also, I see people just switching tanks. I have a protank right now from Kanger. But what's the difference between the protanks & clearamisers? (sorry if spelling is awful!) Anyways, what will be more cost effective? Sorry for the rambling questions! Thanks for your help in advance! This is the 3rd question I've posted in 2 days & I still feel lost lol. I need a beginners guide with a timeline!


For batteries, I would recomend thr itaste MVP 2.0. It'll go 2 days on a charge and quick charge your other battery or your phone. About $40 on line. Tanks ? Alot of personal preference here. Being able to adjust your volts and air flow is huge in getting the most out of your juice. Each one seems to have it's own sweet spot. My preference is the Kanger Aerotank V2 for on the go and the Kanger Aerotank Mega at home. Both have dual coils and adjustable air flow plus they use the same coils. Either tank is about $25 on line. The MVP will take you a long way and slow the need for up grade greatly. If you think about rebuildables, later, it'll give you a really great combo while you're learning !!! JMHO Hope this helps !!!!!!
 
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