Counterfeit GG's

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imeothanasis

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GG is a patent.

Some people here start making similar devices.

A factory in Japan starts making GGs.

The best way to avoid these issues is to update always your product but you cant follow the copiers all the time. Maybe the best way is to start pressing charges. I will make huge money without doing anything. Nice idea, dont you think?
 

southside292

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It is sad and unethical that people are copying your design, but The sad reality is he can't successfully sue them. Having been involved in patents before, his patent most only be provisional(based on the current time frame) at this point.(i'd have to run the patent id with the greek obi to determine) Even if his patent does/is approved by the OBI, it will have no international bearing and would not hold up to court. Greek law is very clear, in pertinent part- Part II General Disposition of Article 5 which lays out many of the requirements to get one's patent approved-
"An invention shall be considered as involving an inventive step if, having regard to the state of the art, it is not obvious to a person skilled in the art"
Unfortunately, his invention is very obvious to anyone skilled in the art. It is nothing that someone skilled in the art wouldn't consider very obvious. Furthermore, A negative ground switch consisting of a spring and brass rod is not patentable, even when combined with an aluminum tube to hold a battery. There are many expired patents covering these type of switches and like devices. It is also not unique in that it relates to an ecig, as that device has already been patented.
Even if the Greek obi does approve his patent application it will not hold up under interntional patent law and the patent laws of other countries(in which case, you would have to bring the suit in the country for whom the alleged patent violator resides, which have far more stingent requirements then Greek law)
It is sad downfall to patent law.
 

imeothanasis

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It is sad and unethical that people are copying your design, but The sad reality is he can't successfully sue them. Having been involved in patents before, his patent most only be provisional(based on the current time frame) at this point.(i'd have to run the patent id with the greek obi to determine) Even if his patent does/is approved by the OBI, it will have no international bearing and would not hold up to court. Greek law is very clear, in pertinent part- Part II General Disposition of Article 5 which lays out many of the requirements to get one's patent approved-
"An invention shall be considered as involving an inventive step if, having regard to the state of the art, it is not obvious to a person skilled in the art"
Unfortunately, his invention is very obvious to anyone skilled in the art. It is nothing that someone skilled in the art wouldn't consider very obvious. Furthermore, A negative ground switch consisting of a spring and brass rod is not patentable, even when combined with an aluminum tube to hold a battery. There are many expired patents covering these type of switches and like devices. It is also not unique in that it relates to an ecig, as that device has already been patented.
Even if the Greek obi does approve his patent application it will not hold up under interntional patent law and the patent laws of other countries(in which case, you would have to bring the suit in the country for whom the alleged patent violator resides, which have far more stingent requirements then Greek law)
It is sad downfall to patent law.

Dear south, I will say this and I will go for sleep. The law covers me even if I had not a patent number from obi.

We will speak better tomorow.
 

breakfastchef

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GG is a patent.

Some people here start making similar devices.

Who is copying the GG? Have you personally inspected those products?

Maybe the best way is to start pressing charges. I will make huge money without doing anything. Nice idea, dont you think?

Good luck with that. I think RobW mentioned that Rolex has been trying to do this for years the first time you posted a similar thread last week.
 

imeothanasis

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Don't worry Imeo the clones were likely not designed with such attention to detail, shininess and beautiful design as GG, have such a great leader with great warranty, fast shipping and great service as you and Tim :) Also our 18650s will always fit the GG Transformer just as the CR2s do!

Thanks Tribal, you are veeeeeeeeery kind my man!!!
 

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I have a question for those of us who HAVE a GG.

Do you like the fact that the GG is an original design that is hand crafted to last forever as well as providing total vaping satisfaction??


MAMU!!!!
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Yes, yes and yes.
 

rejoice

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Does GG stand for Greek ..... I can't believe that grown adults can grovel to someone who is patently a con artist, or at least he is to anyone with half a brain. One moment he can write perfect English, grammatically correct, the next.... Why on earth you don't go back and read the drivel you've written escapes me. Patent! People are copying it! So what, they are doing nothing less than what he's guilty of. The GG is only a copy of the Screw Driver that Trogg made. The original idea of a bigger battery was his. All the other mods, including mine, are just extensions. Anyone with a modicum of sense could do a better job for a couple of quid.He's picked your brains and you've congratulated him and he thanks you by price hikes and a miriad of lame brained excuses before picking them some more. You poor poor people. As i've heard it said "get a life". Just realised whats wrong, this site is for boys and girls. The men and women must be on another site. Hope I can find them. Anyway this should get me banned for sure and I'll have to look elsewhere for my laughs.
Murphy,if you do not like the GG than Go into another thread.
This is senseless to come here and do this post.
I am not too fond of the screwdriver,but I would not come into Trog's thread and say,what you have said.
This is unacceptable behavior.
 

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Murphy, I own an SD & a GG. I bought my SD as a Christmas present for myself & it has served me very well for over 6 months. However, (& apologies to Trog) I can see from the construction of it there are parts that could either break (as other have found out) or deteriate over time. Mainly the button & the spring. Most of you will have come across a torch with a completely ceroded spring due to a leaky battery at some time.

I am also not saying the GG is perfect - in fact I was one of the unlucky ones that received a badly scratched GG & within the first week I killed 5 901 atomisers with it :( But when it works ( & I am hoping that will be more consitent when I get a 510 adapter) it's fantastic :)

I firmly believe that Imeo is NOT a con artist - far from it He has not only created something that will not break when dropped but he also does deeply care about his customers. And BTW the GG design is very different from the SD & is far from a copy.

It's taken me ages to type this as I'm trying to find the right words to not offend anyone. However Murphy, I really just can't understand your attitude & what you are trying to gain from your post?
 
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