Daily dry burn for cleaning atties.

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Daedalus

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Removing the wick will only reduce performance in the long run. Your atomizer will "flood" more often. The fibers are there for a reason.

Honestly flooding doesn't concern me with the 510, since I only use manual batteries and they are sealed. I've actually had less floods since I switched to dripping the other day, since an overfilled cart can flood just as easily as too many drops.

This one is not having any burnt taste issues, it goes away after just a few puffs.
 

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I have only had my 510 model for a few days and it started to really deteriorate in performance. I went and got some of that polident since that seemed like the smarter solution to try at this point rather than try something that could fry my atomizer. I cleaned as directed and I am still not seeing any increase in performance as of yet. Just to see what you meant by a dry burn I attempted one and my atomizer remained unchanged in color. I am wondering what's up with that, it still works just not that great. I think also the fact that I gave up tobacco smokes completely and have been using the 2 Dragons, and the one 510 like they are going out of style might have a little to do with it along with perhaps dripping and overfilling the cart way too much. I plan on getting another atomizer for the 510 just to be on the safe side and I know I need replacements anyway. I just find it odd that my 510 doesn't get the cherry hot glow that I expected yet it does work just not that great. This is after the cleaning with the polident too, not just prior to cleaning.
 

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I was just going to post this idea
The manuals are made for this kinda stuff. That's all the 901 does on it's cleaning cycle anyway, now that I have a manual I can dry burn it anytime I want. He's probably right not to do it too long. The juice acts as lubricant and the joints might snap if you do two full cycles of dry burning.

Guy with the polar bears. I've noticed your posts over the months. Your the perfect test subject! You never EVER last for more than two weeks, you didn't even have to tell me. Let us know when she goes cold, k?
 

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I received my 5V Prodigy and PT last week and have been doing the 8 second burn each night and it's working perfectly so far. It seems to restore the atty to perfect condition and I'm getting absolutely massive hits from both devices with using the drip method.

Oh, did I mention I've been analogue free for almost 72 hours! I can't believe it and without much discomfort at all.

I'll let you know how long these attys last using the nightly 8 second burn tech.
 

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8-o ,,10 mins!!!... it should only take a couple of seconds to see a red glow from the coil if you have taken the cart off....are you trying to do it on a used and already gunked up coil? It's usually too late to do it by then, the gunk is so thick it insulates the coil and the atty get's ever so hot even though you can't see any glow the result is usually a dead coil before you ever get to see any glow.

So an atty in this condition has had it?

I've tried cleaning 2 similarly affected atomizers with no success. As a last ditch effort, I'm doing dry burns which improves the vapor production slightly with each burn, but I imagine eventually I'll burn out a wire.


Edit-- measured resistance on both attys is 2.3 ohms, the same as the brand new one I just got.
 
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I received my 5V Prodigy and PT last week and have been doing the 8 second burn each night and it's working perfectly so far. It seems to restore the atty to perfect condition and I'm getting absolutely massive hits from both devices with using the drip method.

Oh, did I mention I've been analogue free for almost 72 hours! I can't believe it and without much discomfort at all.

I'll let you know how long these attys last using the nightly 8 second burn tech.


I too have a Prodigy and I started doing the daily dry burns after reading this thread 2 weeks ago. So far so good, my 2 new attys are still working like day one. I'll let everyone know how long they last.
I am not doing the dry burn for 8 seconds though, I am only doing it for 3 or 4 seconds.
 

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So an atty in this condition has had it?

I've tried cleaning 2 similarly affected atomizers with no success. As a last ditch effort, I'm doing dry burns which improves the vapor production slightly with each burn, but I imagine eventually I'll burn out a wire.


Edit-- measured resistance on both attys is 2.3 ohms, the same as the brand new one I just got.

I never had any luck trying to burn off the gunk once it had already built up on the coil, in fact I found that I could hold the power on for ages with the side of the atty getting too hot to touch....and yet I would still never be able to see the coil glowing red and worst of all it usually ended up with a dead atty. That had been the main reason I had thought this was a pretty hopeless idea at first.

I would only recommend doing the dry burn if you are going to do it daily from new and the gunk isn't given a chance to build up in the first place, otherwise it's probably far better to stick with alcohol or cola baths or something..... as long as I do it every day it only ever takes a couple of seconds to see it glowing red and I stop burning straight away once I can see it glowing.

I have to admit it is a bit of a leap of faith to do the dry burn 'before' the atties performance is diminishing but by the time I tried this method, I was so fed up with never getting any longer than two weeks out of an atty anyway that I thought 'what the heck!' now my atties are all lasting well over two weeks and best of all with no loss of performance at all.

If you are already getting months out of an atty ....please 'don't' bother trying doing dry burns ..just carry on doing whatever it is you are already doing!!:)

My latest atty is now on day 11 and still performing just as good as new and even that is better than anything I had before I tried this.
 
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do you prime the atty with a few drops after the dry burn?

I think I just killed at atty that last about 2 week. give vapour but very little and occasionally have a bad taste. I try the soda method and the core is still black.

So I pop in the only spare i had and i'm only going to use carts from now. I want to keep it as a fog machine as long as possible. right now the primer liquid is off but its still is having trouble wicking 3/4 full carts. seeing that its so new should i reprime it after dry burn or just dry burn than pop in brand new full cart?
 

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I never had any luck trying to burn off the gunk once it had already built up on the coil, in fact I found that I could hold the power on for ages with the side of the atty getting too hot to touch....and yet I would still never be able to see the coil glowing red and worst of all it usually ended up with a dead atty. That had been the main reason I had thought this was a pretty hopeless idea at first.

I would only recommend doing the dry burn if you are going to do it daily from new and the gunk isn't given a chance to build up in the first place, otherwise it's probably far better to stick with alcohol or cola baths or something..... as long as I do it every day it only ever takes a couple of seconds to see it glowing red and I stop burning straight away once I can see it glowing.

I have to admit it is a bit of a leap of faith to do the dry burn 'before' the atties performance is diminishing but by the time I tried this method, I was so fed up with never getting any longer than two weeks out of an atty anyway that I thought 'what the heck!' now my atties are all lasting well over two weeks and best of all with no loss of performance at all.

If you are already getting months out of an atty ....please 'don't' bother trying doing dry burns ..just carry on doing whatever it is you are already doing!!:)

My latest atty is now on day 11 and still performing just as good as new and even that is better than anything I had before I tried this.

I'm doing a daily dry burn on a new atty now just to see.

I've had surprising results with a variation of a post in another thread using baking soda and vinegar:

1) Put a small amount, I dunno maybe 1cc? of baking soda into the troubled atty, so that it's down by where the atty action takes place (the coil I suppose). Drop a few drops of vinegar into the same spot. It will bubble and react. Keep dropping vinegar until it no longer reacts. Sometimes, when you drop in vinegar, close off the holes of the atty on both ends. This will force the reaction to exit from the air holes.

2) Turn atty upside down and blow out.

3) Repeat steps 1 and 2

4) Put atty(s) in shot glass and cover in isopropyl alcohol for 15 min.

5) Blow vinegar out of atty(s) and put them in front of a fan, preferably one with warm air like the back of my computer for 12 hours (probably takes less time to dry it)

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I tried this yesterday on the 2 troubled attys. After trying it out, it took a few minutes to get a decent vapor, then I tried a short burn with my passthru and I saw cherry red! Unbelievable. I stopped after that as I wasn't yet getting the throat hit of the new atty but I'm hopeful. Maybe one more treatment of vinegar and baking soda.
 
I never had any luck trying to burn off the gunk once it had already built up on the coil, in fact I found that I could hold the power on for ages with the side of the atty getting too hot to touch....and yet I would still never be able to see the coil glowing red and worst of all it usually ended up with a dead atty. That had been the main reason I had thought this was a pretty hopeless idea at first.

I would only recommend doing the dry burn if you are going to do it daily from new and the gunk isn't given a chance to build up in the first place, otherwise it's probably far better to stick with alcohol or cola baths or something..... as long as I do it every day it only ever takes a couple of seconds to see it glowing red and I stop burning straight away once I can see it glowing.

I have to admit it is a bit of a leap of faith to do the dry burn 'before' the atties performance is diminishing but by the time I tried this method, I was so fed up with never getting any longer than two weeks out of an atty anyway that I thought 'what the heck!' now my atties are all lasting well over two weeks and best of all with no loss of performance at all.

If you are already getting months out of an atty ....please 'don't' bother trying doing dry burns ..just carry on doing whatever it is you are already doing!!:)

My latest atty is now on day 11 and still performing just as good as new and even that is better than anything I had before I tried this.

A nice summary :)
 

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Haven't "cleaned" an atty in 3 months..just dry burn on the Prodigy 5V 4 secs, sometimes twice in a row until those "fumes" dissipate..all going perfectly!..
But when I put the same atty on a regular batt..it barely works!?..maybe my atties work now only on 5V as getting old?
 

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i did the dry burn for few days now and i have to say that while it seems to be a good way to let your atties perform every day like new this metod works good with some attys type and less good for others (i'm talking about penstyle attys here).
My 801 TW atty is doing well with daily dry burn but my be112 seems to suffer more the dry burn, it really takes an awful bad taste after every dry burn and it's pretty hard to get that taste away.
I suspect be112s run more hot than other brands, that is why i like them a lot (warmer vapor, more present throat hit).

surbitonPete, did you try dry burn with be112's? if so, did it work?
 

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i did the dry burn for few days now and i have to say that while it seems to be a good way to let your atties perform every day like new this metod works good with some attys type and less good for others (i'm talking about penstyle attys here).
My 801 TW atty is doing well with daily dry burn but my be112 seems to suffer more the dry burn, it really takes an awful bad taste after every dry burn and it's pretty hard to get that taste away.
I suspect be112s run more hot than other brands, that is why i like them a lot (warmer vapor, more present throat hit).

surbitonPete, did you try dry burn with be112's? if so, did it work?

Hi Ournature, no I have only done this with penstyle atties, I have never had a BE112 so there could be a difference.
 
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