Dark Clouds on E-Cigs' Horizon

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Uma

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Excellent article! They even covered CASAA, vaping Militia and AEMSA. They covered the fact that people love Flavors and finding the right for you flavor makes or breaks you. The only thing I huffy puffed about was the idiotic "we're better, cleaner, wiser, and more caring than others I've seen out there". Turned me right off that company let me tell you. There are soooooo many mixologists that would make the FDA envious let alone happy. She didn't say a word about them, not one word.
I've been grumpy lately. Maybe it was just my take on it.
Overall, though, it was a brilliant piece!
 

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I must be in a bad mood today or something. While I could see some positives in the article, many things just hit me the wrong way.

"With no oversight from the federal government or local health departments, it's like the Wild West days..." I think that scares people who don't know much, if anything, about vaping. No oversight from anyone in authority? Wild West?--(term mentioned at least twice in the article, and I'm tired of hearing/seeing it). Never mind that most people don't realize what actually goes on in a public restaurant, but whatever...

Mentioning mixing e-juice in a bathroom would be appalling to most people. Even me.

Do they always have to say "chemicals"? Ingredients or liquids or supplies sounds a bit less disturbing to those who don't know what goes into e-liquids.

"People who've never smoked a cigarette are vaping, and they're gathering at vaping conventions, in lounge areas of vape shops and at local parks." I thought we were trying to prove that most people who vape are smokers trying to find a way to quit smoking instead of re-normalizing smoking again.

Other things, but I'm too tired to sort them out. I apologize if I'm not seeing this clearly. The article was sort of on again, off again in many ways. I think some things in there could be taken out of context and used in a negative way. Sorry.
 
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I don't know how anybody could like this article?

I find it interesting that vapers are "scared" to vape eliquid from china manufacturers (and having seen youtube videos of their clean rooms, where everyone is wearing hair net/wraps, clean suits, the floors are epoxied like airplane hangers, and all the vats are stainless steel, etc.)

.....yet this article talks about "back rooms" and "Behind the curtain, Melanie Smith doesn't wear a lab coat or protective covering over her clothes, shoes or blonde hair."

Thanks, but I prefer not to have my ejuice mixed by people in street clothes and the possibility of a stray blonde hair getting into my ejuice.

And I've been in plenty of "back rooms" of small businesses, they range from everything from break rooms to places where people store their boots, coats (with pet hair), and wet umbrellas, as well as shipping supplies.

I only order from places where I know the facilities, and that would be a facility/room built out precisely for mixing eliquids, ie. stainless steel tables, automatic (contained) flavor dispensers, etc. and the mixers are dressed appropriately for the task.

Anyway, I didn't think this article presented the ejuice mixing biz in a good light, yet i don't doubt that that is how eliquid is being mixed in many places.

This is why even some vapers *want* some regulation. :facepalm: I kinda don't blame them.

You can eat off the floor of my kitchen and it's still not clean enough to be a commercial "mixing facility" IMHO. I guess that's why I mostly do DIY now, except for a few vendors I know have dedicated mixing facilities.
 
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and with photos like these, can you blame people who don't vape for NOT wanting it allowed in their workplace, restaurants, etc.? A picture is worth 1,000 words, for sure:
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Really, this industry needs to get it together.

I don't know if the owners of these shops thought this would be "free advertising" or what, :confused: but I really don't think they did us any *favors*. :facepalm:
 

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and with photos like these, can you blame people who don't vape for NOT wanting it allowed in their workplace, restaurants, etc.? A picture is worth 1,000 words, for sure:
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Really, this industry needs to get it together.

I don't know if the owners of these shops thought this would be "free advertising" or what, :confused: but I really don't think they did us any *favors*. :facepalm:

Are you refering to his haircut or the mustache?
 
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