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So I am a cheapskate and ordered some Dekang juice for cheap, it says expired or label issue, from Evcigarettes today. How disappointed am I really going to be? I only spent `18.00 and half of that was for shipping. Dont judge..lol Im a granny on a pension. I usually use e puff.
 

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Two years ago Dekang was all that was available in my area. Some of it was good. Got apple strait from China for $4 for 50ml. Vaped it for a couple months. Then I found out what good juice is. I would never vape it again unless pretty desperate. I do not think China has the same quality control we have on this side of the pond. Best thing I have learned was DIY ejuice. Building coils and wicking is very close to the top as well. Enjoy your ejuice. CHEERS!
 

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    So I am a cheapskate and ordered some Dekang juice for cheap, it says expired or label issue, from Evcigarettes today. How disappointed am I really going to be? I only spent `18.00 and half of that was for shipping. Dont judge..lol Im a granny on a pension. I usually use e puff.

    You paid $9 for Shipping? I know it's by weight, but what and how much did you buy? lol

    I like dekang tobaccos best.
     

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    I ordered a bunch when I started vaping, most of it was not very good, a few were vapable but that was then. I am with Wheelie on that one. My first attempts at DIY were better than most of what Dekang had to offer, Now that I have had time and knowledge to make better juice than most store bought I have saved a ton. With the exception of one or two must haves that I would never get right anyway.
     

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    Diacetyl and 2,3-pentanedione warning, your call .............
    Haven't gaped Dekang or Hangsen etc... for a while, but if memory serves me they didn't have too many dairy or dessert flavors nor did any of their juices taste diacetyly and such. Have things changed ? Do they now carry custard, milk and yogurt etc flavors ?

    You seem to type a lot of short posts with rhetorical questions, innuendos and cryptic links etc... Would you care to expound on this particular post. Has there been a testing of DeKang juices ?

    You also have insinuated that you are involved in the industry somehow and that your job necessitates you visiting a lot of vendors. Would you care to explain what your involvement is in the industry ? I am just a little confused as to your position, as you have defended vendors that have actually tested positive for diketones in the past.

    I apologize if I have mistaken you with another member, but I'm pretty sure I am referring to your posts.
     

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    Haven't gaped Dekang or Hangsen etc... for a while, but if memory serves me they didn't have too many dairy or dessert flavors nor did any of their juices taste diacetyly and such. Have things changed ? Do they now carry custard, milk and yogurt etc flavors ?

    You seem to type a lot of short posts with rhetorical questions, innuendos and cryptic links etc... Would you care to expound on this particular post. Has there been a testing of DeKang juices ?

    You also have insinuated that you are involved in the industry somehow and that your job necessitates you visiting a lot of vendors. Would you care to explain what your involvement is in the industry ? I am just a little confused as to your position, as you have defended vendors that have actually tested positive for diketones in the past.

    I apologize if I have mistaken you with another member, but I'm pretty sure I am referring to your posts.

    Dekang is the most widely re branded / re formulated / counterfeit e liquid even before the genius buyout, I have a close friend who has a PhD in biochemistry so lets just say my testing comes cheap, I am not here to make false accusations against any one brand / company just my opinion.I have no affiliation with any business in the industry nor would I discuss in depth my business, I am an avid traveler and have visited several juice manufactures with my family and friends, I'm an x smoker just like you, who happens to be very passionate about my health and the future of the vaping industry.
     

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    Are you kidding me ?
    No actually I am not kidding. I am a user of the USA Mix and would like to see evidence. Not arguing or condemning, but if I were to say vaping causes impotence, would you not ask for proof?...OFC you would.

    I have no facts to say one way or another whether the product contains harmful ingredients so I ask for some data to prove or disprove......I just want to know if I am in danger of anything.
     

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    No actually I am not kidding. I am a user of the USA Mix and would like to see evidence. Not arguing or condemning, but if I were to say vaping causes impotence, would you not ask for proof?...OFC you would.

    I have no facts to say one way or another whether the product contains harmful ingredients so I ask for some data to prove or disprove......I just want to know if I am in danger of anything.

    My research has been done through a private lab facility and am not at liberty in disclosing that information, what I will share with you if you haven't herd of yet would be the Clear Stream Onward program.When you see flavoring manufactures funding research in testing for respiratory damage on their own, that to me goes well beyond being transparent.

    Have you ever seen any third part testing results from Dekang ? do they even provide "full" compound disclosure ? maybe there's a reason for that ?
    http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/specsheetlist.aspx
    http://flavourartnaflavourreports.com/
     

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    Two years ago Dekang was all that was available in my area. Some of it was good. Got apple strait from China for $4 for 50ml. Vaped it for a couple months. Then I found out what good juice is. I would never vape it again unless pretty desperate. I do not think China has the same quality control we have on this side of the pond. Best thing I have learned was DIY ejuice. Building coils and wicking is very close to the top as well. Enjoy your ejuice. CHEERS!
    Would you mind to explain what quality control exists on this side of the pond? No examples of pet food please, we are talking about juice.
     
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    Dekang is the most widely re branded / re formulated / counterfeit e liquid even before the genius buyout, I have a close friend who has a PhD in biochemistry so lets just say my testing comes cheap, I am not here to make false accusations against any one brand / company just my opinion.I have no affiliation with any business in the industry nor would I discuss in depth my business, I am an avid traveler and have visited several juice manufactures with my family and friends, I'm an x smoker just like you, who happens to be very passionate about my health and the future of the vaping industry.
    I am aware that Dekang liquids are counterfeited and re-branded. As a matter of fact I knew first hand of a B&M in NYC that re-branded Dekang and sold it as their own with a 500% mark-up. But you didn't issue a counterfeit warning, you issued a diketones warning. And I found it odd since you were defending in another thread, Muffin Man, a vendor that gave a deceptive response to a customer inquiry re diketones in their juice, and was tested positive in Vaporshark testing. You have also stated and/or implied in the past that diketones are no worst than Butyric Acid which some vendors are using as a replacement in their recipes which call for dairy or creamy ingredients and even questioned Dr. Kistler about it in another thread. You didn't offer a counterpoint to his claim that tests haven't showed it as troublesome as diketones, but yet you continued in other threads with the implication that diketones are no more or less harmful than other chemicals in eliquid.

    So yes, I do find it peculiar that you are issuing a diketones warning against a vendor that hasn't tested positive in any test publicly, and imply that your biochemist friend has tested, but you won't go into any specifics. And at the same time you claim that you have nothing against any specific vendor !

    I will take your word that you aren't affiliated with any vendor or vaping association, at face value, and obviously you don't need to divulge your business if it's not vaping related. It's just that I thought that it was implied that you were involved in a vaping related business based on your previous posts, and I found your posts in this thread uncharacteristic and kind of strange to say the least.
     
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    My research has been done through a private lab facility and am not at liberty in disclosing that information, what I will share with you if you haven't herd of yet would be the Clear Stream Onward program.When you see flavoring manufactures funding research in testing for respiratory damage on their own, that to me goes well beyond being transparent.

    Have you ever seen any third part testing results from Dekang ? do they even provide "full" compound disclosure ? maybe there's a reason for that ?
    http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/specsheetlist.aspx
    http://flavourartnaflavourreports.com/

    Please be clear. Are you stating that your " research in a private lab " which you can't go into further details on, involved diketones testing on Dekang products or not. If not, what is the basis for your first post in this thread ?

    The fact that Flavorart is doing independent tests on vaping safety is completely irrelevant to this thread. Almost 100% of other vendors are not doing these tests either. There is no dispute that FlavorArt is a responsible vendor and an example for the industry. But the question remains, do you have first hand knowledge that Dekang products have diketones in them ?
     

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    Would you mind to explain what quality control exists on this side of the pond? No examples of pet food please, we are talking about juice.
    Do not know where you buy your juice but I have been to a few labs that are clean and controlled environment. Sterile equipment ect. Some companies have data sheets for all their juices that they had tested and the paper work sits on the counter for anyone to read. Got lots of examples. With your dog food comment, you sir are nothing but a ............
     

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    Do not know where you buy your juice but I have been to a few labs that are clean and controlled environment. Sterile equipment ect. Some companies have data sheets for all their juices that they had tested and the paper work sits on the counter for anyone to read. Got lots of examples. With your dog food comment, you sir are nothing but a ............
    Dog food comment is yours.
    And if you wish you can find videos of Chinese juice manufacturing facilities which are even nicer.
    However, you did not answer my question about quality control. "Some companies" do not represent industry as a whole.
     

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    So I am a cheapskate and ordered some Dekang juice for cheap, it says expired or label issue, from Evcigarettes today. How disappointed am I really going to be? I only spent `18.00 and half of that was for shipping. Dont judge..lol Im a granny on a pension. I usually use e puff.
    If you ever have a chance you can buy Hangsen eliquids here in the states. The flavors are so much better than Dekang.
    Don't sweat it. I have vaped Dekang Ry4 an a few of the tobaccos. What flavors did you buy?

    Oh, the link to Hangsen eliquids http://www.caterpillarvapes.com/categories/hangsen-e-liquid.html
     
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