Delaware HB 138 would tax e-cigarettes + smokeless at 30%

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HB 138 would double the Other tobacco Product tax from 15% to 30% of wholesale price, and redefine "tobacco product" to include electronic cigarettes. This bill would impose a new tax on electronic cigarettes and double the tax on smokeless tobacco.

Call to Action! Delaware Bill to Impose 30% Tax on E-Cigarettes and Smokeless Tobacco -- HB 138


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[full text + legislative tracking]

If enacted, this bill wold:

  1. Tax electronic cigarettes by redefining "tobacco products" under Delaware tax law to include any product "made or derived from tobacco that is intended for human consumption . . . or any component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product."
  2. Impose a wholesale tax on all smoke-free products (e-cigarettes, smokeless tobacco, dissolvable tobacco) of 30%. E-cigarettes are not currently taxed under Delaware law, but enactment of this bill would constitute a 100% increase for adult smokeless tobacco consumers. The Delaware Department of Finance will be given the power to decide whether this tax would be applied to e-cigarette disposables, liquid, mods, cartomizers, atomizers, batteries, etc.
  3. Require e-cigarette vendors to obtain a tobacco retail license to sell e-cigarettes (see Title 30, §5307)
  4. Make it a crime punishable by up to 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine for a Delaware citizen to have more than ten "packages" of untaxed e-cigarettes. (see Title 30, §5342).
 

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Sure looks like it, doesn't it?

This is not an RJR bill. RJR bills specifically tax "vapor products" at 5 cents per 1 ml (South Carolina) or 1.48 ml (Oklahoma).

Our biggest fights in the next few years are not going to be with RJR. They're going to be with the usual suspects -- the public health industry.

In the case of Delaware, I believe this is another bill like Maine, New Mexico, and New York City where the sponsor(s) have no idea that their bill would tax e-cigarettes. That's why they need to hear from vapers.
 

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Being from Dover, DE, this hits home. I have already contacted every committee member as well as my Representative and Senator. It has only been a week since I switched from smoking to vaping, but I can already tell the difference. I want more people to experience What I have experienced, and a higher tax would make switching to e-cigs less accessible or preferable.
 

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Contact them!!! Call them!!! Email them!!

I actually got a PERSONAL response from Rep Jeff Spiegelman:

"Thank you for contacting me regarding your position on HB 138. Your opinion is very important to me. I share your concerns about raising taxes on items that are meant to improve the health of Delawareans. I am currently researching the bill and tracking the responses from my district. If I may ask you a question; would you be in support of this bill if it was amended to remove the tax on electronic cigarettes?"

I won't say how I responded.
 

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Just got another response:


Mr Mulder,
You will be happy to know that, after talking to a couple of lawyers, the bill does NOT raise the tax on ecigs

Thank you for your time,

Wrong, wrong, wrong. At the hearing today I actually explained to one of the reps, at his request, how nicotine used in NRTs, e-cigarettes, and other products is "derived from" the tobacco plant, and thus would be taxed under HB 138.

After my testimony, Rep. Andria Bennett asked how people were learning about this bill and the Call to Action. I explained the legislative tracking that CASAA does, as well as ECF and the vaping community, and she seemed convinced that "the industry" was behind this. She then asked me, "How do you know these things don't cause cancer?" In about 90 seconds I went through the epidemiological evidence from Sweden, the Tobacco Control study on e-cig vapor, and the difference in TSNAs in e-cig liquid vs. smoke.

The following exchange then occurred (paraphrasing / from memory): "So you're still getting carcinogens." "At trace amounts." "But they're still carcinogens." "Trace amounts of carcinogens are found in coffee..." "Well, this bill isn't about coffee."

Rep. Bennett probably comes off worse in the above than she did in person. At least she asked questions.

Rep. Barbieri, the sponsor, stated that it was not his intention to tax e-cigarettes (and that he would accept a fix to it), and I believe him. Ultimately, they didn't bother to remove the e-cig tax, as only two committee members said they'd support the tax hike on cigars and smokeless. As a result, the bill was tabled, and is likely dead for 2013. If you're from Delaware and read this, you should still respond to the Call to Action.

I'd like to thank Andrew from Delaware Vapor and CASAA member Eva for coming along and testifying.

I added the following to my testimony after hearing from the ALA, ACS, and AHA -- a rough version of what I said

I'd also like to comment on something said by the representative from the American Heart Association. In considering this bill, he implored you to think of family members or friends who may have suffered from "tobacco-related" disease and death. I'd again like to point out that 98-99% of tobacco-related disease and death is caused by cigarettes, which are not impacted by this bill. And as for the American Lung Association rep saying that no tobacco product is safer than cigarettes, I'd like to point out that Dr. Tom Glynn, who is one of the individuals who runs the national office of the American Cancer Society, has said that exclusive use of smokeless tobacco is less hazardous than smoking. If she'd like to tell Dr. Glynn that he's wrong, I could give her his office number.

Full disclosure: I don't know Dr. Glynn's office number. I probably could have Googled it for her.
 
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To: Delaware House Revenue and Finance Committee Members
From: Bill Godshall, Executive Director, Smokefree Pennsylvania
RE: Please reject HB 138

As one who has successfully campaigned to reduce cigarette consumption since 1986 at local, state and federal levels, I strongly urge you to reject HB 138 because it threatens consumer and public health by imposing unwarranted punitive taxes (instead of protecting public health as Rep. Michael Barbieri falsely claims).

Cigarette smoking causes >99% of all tobacco attributable morbidity, mortality and healthcare costs, while the use of Other Tobacco Products (OTP) causes <1%. So there is no public health or fiscal justification for increasing the OTP tax rate from 15% to 30% of wholesale price, nor is there any justification for changing the definition of “tobacco product” to impose an outrageous 30% tax on electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes), which have helped several million cigarette smokers quit and/or sharply reduce cigarette consumption in the past several years.

Scientific and empirical evidence has consistently confirmed that smokeless tobacco products and e-cigarettes are >99% less hazardous than cigarettes. Smokers who switch to e-cigarettes and/or smokeless tobacco products reduce their mortality risks nearly as much as smokers who quit all tobacco/nicotine use. Several million smokers have already quit smoking and/or sharply reduced cigarette consumption by switching to e-cigarettes and/or smokeless tobacco.

The only way to further reduce tobacco disease and death is to continue reducing daily cigarette smoking and overall cigarette consumption.

Far from protecting public health, HB 138’s punitive 30% tax on these least hazardous tobacco/nicotine products would encourage some e-cigarette and smokeless tobacco consumers to switch back to far more hazardous cigarettes, while discouraging cigarette smokers in Delaware from switching to these exponentially less hazardous smokefree alternatives.

HB 138 also would unfairly tax cigars at 30% even though cigars are also significantly less hazardous than cigarettes (as most cigar smokers don’t inhale the smoke, and most don’t smoke daily). Besides, youth consume <1% of all tobacco products, and youth cigarette smoking has sharply declined since 1998.

Since many/most e-cigarettes and premium cigars are sold via the Internet, HB 138 would encourage many/most consumers at brick-and-mortar stores in Delaware to buy these products via the Internet to avoid paying the unwarranted 30% tax, which would generate significantly less revenue for Delaware than HB 138 sponsors anticipate.

The purpose for state lawsuits and increasing cigarette taxes was to hold smokers fiscally accountable for governmental expenditures to treat cigarette caused diseases and disabilities. Delaware’s $1.60/pack tax and MSA payments already reimburse the state for its expenditures to treat cigarette diseases and disabilities. If OTP were as hazardous and as costly for taxpayers as cigarettes, they should be taxed at a similar rate as cigarettes. But as previously delineated, OTP are far less hazardous than cigarettes and impose negligible (if any) costs upon Delaware taxpayers.

Once again, please reject HB 138.

Since I founded Smokefree Pennsylvania in 1990, we’ve advocated local, state and federal policies to reduce indoor tobacco smoke pollution, reduce tobacco marketing to youth, increase cigarette tax rates, hold cigarette companies accountable in civil courts, and in 2007 I convinced US Senator Mike Enzi to amend the FSPTCA to require graphic warnings on all cigarette packs, which is now in federal litigation.

Feel free to contact me anytime for more information or assistance.

Sincerely,

William T. Godshall, MPH
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Can we please have an update on this topic?

Rep. Barbieri, the sponsor, stated that it was not his intention to tax e-cigarettes (and that he would accept a fix to it), and I believe him. Ultimately, they didn't bother to remove the e-cig tax, as only two committee members said they'd support the tax hike on cigars and smokeless. As a result, the bill was tabled, and is likely dead for 2013. If you're from Delaware and read this, you should still respond to the Call to Action.

The bill is pretty much dead. Delaware residents, including those who read this in July - December of 2013 and into the future, may want to consider sending an e-mail letting the committee members know your story and that you oppose taxes on smoke-free products because of your experience with e-cigarettes.

There's always a small chance it could get tacked onto the budget bill, but it's doubtful http://delaware.newszap.com/central...are-state-legislators-enter-final-stretch-run
 
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