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I'll agree with the above. Leaking is generally from user error of some type.

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The smok will leak if left liquid in tank and air intake left open and left on side for around 1 week.. Apart from that smok tanks beat kangertech tanks but kangertech batteries beat smok batteries every time..
the kanger uses separate bateries so you mean that if i let the smok stand up i wont leak but if left on its side it does ?
 

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I owned Kanger APV's right up until my last two setups. They were always pretty solid. I've never used a Smok product before. So, I would personally recommend a Kanger mod/tank combo as your first setup only because they are crazy easy to maintain.

"easy to maintain" compared to what? One can buy superior equipment, (e.g. Cuboid, VTC Mini, Pico, RX200, IPV5, Smok products etc, etc), for what Kanger products sell for.
 

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the kanger uses separate bateries so you mean that if i let the smok stand up i wont leak but if left on its side it does ?

Any tank with adjustable airflow will leak if left full and lying on its side for an extended period of time. Kanger tanks routinely leak even if you're careful not to do that.

Buy what you want, but you'll likely regret purchasing a Kanger Topbox after you have some experience under your belt. I know I did.
 

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anyone here have a micro ftv4 ?
and please motivate you chose on what i should get

I do have the TFV4 and mini - micro is simply the Squattest of the line and needs to be run cooler, with a shorter coil set.
It is still Designed to use as much liquid and provide as much air flow as possible within design limits.
I also have Kanger Subtank mini's/Nanos. These are Dependable, buildable, easy on the juice daily service tanks. Design is good and parts are readily available to service as needed. Even many Clones of these tanks are often getting excellent reviews.

Would I like a TFV4-micro - Yes
Would I want as my Primary choice - not likely.
 

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Any tank with adjustable airflow will leak if left full and lying on its side for an extended period of time. Kanger tanks routinely leak even if you're careful not to do that.
What do you consider "an extended period of time"? I've got a two sub-ohm tanks with adjustable airflow (Movkin Luggy and Kanger Subtank-mini) that I leave on their side overnight all the time without any leaking issues. In fact, the Kanger has been lying on its side, full, airflow wide open, for days (I just got a couple new RDA's that I've been playing with), and it's dry as a bone. In fact, I actually find I have more leaking issues when I leave a tank with just a little liquid in -- that will do it even overnight, and whether or not it's left upright. I actually don't have this problem at all with my sub-ohm tanks, but my Kayfun "weeps" (doesn't really "leak") overnight, and it does it a lot more if I don't top it off before I go to bed. The only time I've had one of my sub-ohm tanks leak on me is when I filled up my Luggy tank but forgot to put the top part back on the RBA head when I reassembled it.

I think it has something to do with vacuum pressure. Gravity is trying to pull the juice down, and siphon it out of the atomizer through the air path. But it can't just flow freely, there's a little tiny hole plugged with wicking material that it has to go through. So it takes a little bit of push/pull to get anything moving anywhere. With just the one way in or out, through the air channel, air can't get in "behind" the liquid to let any liquid out, so if anything is going to come out, what's behind it has to "get bigger" to fill up the space. Air expands and compresses very easily, with just slight differences in pressure. Liquids don't expand very much, if at all. With just a little tiny air bubble inside the tank, the air can't expand enough to let any liquid come out, and so the vacuum pressure helps to keep gravity in check. But when the tank's almost empty, and there's a much larger air bubble in there, it can expand a lot easier, allowing greater range of motion for the liquid, and gravity is eventually able to pull just enough liquid out to make a drop. Once that drop is out, a little air bubble creeps in to take up the space it left. This little air bubble floats up to the top and merges with the air inside the tank, equalizing the pressure, allowing further expansion, and starting the whole process over again. That's what I think happens, anyway. I don't have a career in fluid dynamics, but I've got my Physics 101 down pretty square.
 
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