Direct short in all RBA/RDA's?

[talbrecht]

In reading all the threads about the Vape Bash incident and watching numerous videos on coil building, safety, battery safety etc. It just dawned on me a question that probably has no merit in reality but has my head scratching.

I do rebuild myself and use proper batteries and ohm meters to check my work.......BUT what is keeping the liquid filled wicking material from creating a direct short across the negative and positive posts in an rda/RBA? I mean we create a coil, run our favorite wicking material through it, then proceed to wet it down with our favorite whatever vape juice. Is PG and VG not conduct electricity even a little bit. What about juices that cut VG with distilled water. I know water is conductive. I am positive there is a logical explanation but for the life of me without testing I can't find one.

 

[GunMonkeyINTL]

I can't speak to the conductivity of e-liquid, but I'm guessing it represents a higher resistance than the coil, if it is conductive.
If I remember correctly from chemistry class, water is not conductive. It is the dissolved minerals usually found in water that cause it to conduct electricity. Distilled water is not conductive.

 

[MedicatedDeveloper]

Distilled water shouldn't be conductive as it doesn't have any dissolved ions in it. Tap water will be mildly conductive and salt water very conductive.

 

[DavidOck]

Typing as a retired dam electrician (think hydro power, not what people call me ), Darn near ANYTHING will conduct if the voltage is high enough.

But at vaping voltages, clean water and ejuice are not conductors. Otherwise, we'd all be using some sort of ultrasonic vaporizing method.

 

[Nytebreed]

Otherwise, we'd all be using some sort of ultrasonic vaporizing method.

Screw that, I demand lasers.

 

[DavidOck]

I think we'd all be lugging around car batteries to fire those, darn it...

 

[K_Tech]

Screw that, I demand lasers.

I like the way you think!

As has already been mentioned, either e-liquid is non-conductive, or its resistance is so high that it becomes irrelevant at the resistance and voltages we vape at.

 

[Nytebreed]

I think we'd all be lugging around car batteries to fire those, darn it...

I'd be ok plugging it in the wall. Kinda fun to watch the lights dim when you hit the fire button.

 

[DavidOck]

Maybe put in a dedicated charger for the Tesla auto, and use that? (Hey, I have a Tesla mod, but can't figure out how to stuff it into an outlet....)

 

[The Torch]

E liquid does not conduct enough at the voltages we use for vaping. Yes, it's been mentioned already, but you can convince yourself by putting a drop of e-liquid on the post of your mod before screwing your topper in. Does it vape? Unless you screw it real hard to push all the liquid completely out, it won't. I often have to clean my post if I have the slightest juice leak from underneath my toppers.

 

[Jimi D.]

Just don't use saline, and it's all good

 

[The Torch]

Maybe put in a dedicated charger for the Tesla auto, and use that? (Hey, I have a Tesla mod, but can't figure out how to stuff it into an outlet....)

If you drive a Tesla, why bother with a special adapter? Just plug it into your car!

Actually, a 2 watt laser, which is about the size of a good mod and will cost you about the same price, runs on a 18650 battery and should be powerful enough to vaporize really dark juices since you don't even need that close to blow up balloons 4 feet away:
Spyder 3 Arctic Blue Handheld Laser

My guess is with a good reflective setup where the beam is always reflected through the same spot, there's a chance it could work. Who will try it first?

 

[Dj Xy]

Electricity follows the path of least resistance, in our case that would be the resistance wire, even straight tap water would not cause a short.
The electrical resistance of water is so high (0.2 mΩ sea water, 2 to 200 mΩ drinking water, 18000 mΩ deionized water at 20°C), that it could in no way cause a short at the voltages we use.

 

[Ryedan]

I'd be ok plugging it in the wall. Kinda fun to watch the lights dim when you hit the fire button.

Now that's what I'm talkin' about

 

[Ryedan]

Actually, a 2 watt laser, which is about the size of a good mod and will cost you about the same price, runs on a 18650 battery and should be powerful enough to vaporize really dark juices since you don't even need that close to blow up balloons 4 feet away

2 watts? And that's not all going to be converted into heat? I think I'll pass

 

[AndriaD]

Actually, a 2 watt laser, which is about the size of a good mod and will cost you about the same price, runs on a 18650 battery and should be powerful enough to vaporize really dark juices since you don't even need that close to blow up balloons 4 feet away:
Spyder 3 Arctic Blue Handheld Laser

Man, I could give my cat a complex with a laser like that!

Andria

 

[The Torch]

2 watts? And that's not all going to be converted into heat? I think I'll pass

Conversion from light to heat will definitely depend on the darkness of your liquid, but this thing CAN blow balloons and set matches on fire.
They also make a flashlight called "the Torch" (that's actually not where I got my name, though...) It can set paper on fire or even fry an egg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsIHyRyETKg

Man, I could give my cat a complex with a laser like that!

Andria

You could even blind or burn the poor cat, thus reversing the usual kitty/laser attraction!

In the end, I think pointing Lithium-ion batteries into out mouth -even with a low ohm coil- is much, much safer than pointing those products at our face...

Alright, how about this one: